German priests rebel against Anti-LGBT rhethoric by pope

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A plethora of German bishops of the Catholic church have come out against Pope Francis' statement that homosexual couples shouldn't be blessed by the Church. Especially bishops of the usually arch-conservative Bavaria have voiced loud criticism against this dogma.

Ansgar Wiedenhaus, pater of the Jesuit Order in Nuremberg, is quoted saying: "It is pure cruelty and heartlessness to tell two people who are in love that their love is sinful."

Wiedenhaus says he has given homosexual couples his blessings and wedded them in his church, since gay marriage became legal in Germany and he will continue to do so. He and 15 other Catholic priests from Nuremberg signed a public statement condeming the recent dogma coming from Rome.

https://www.nordbayern.de/region/nuernberg/nurnberger-pfarrer-wir-wollen-homosexuelle-paare-segnen-1.10937616

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A Belgian cardinal as well

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Sweet but heartbreaking how they have to keep themselves in denial that their religion is hateful and archaic

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Good to know there are some decent Catholics around.

If the Church doesn't become more accepting it will simply die off in most parts of the civilised world.

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yass a new schizm  we love to see it

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45 minutes ago, littlepotter said:

Sweet but heartbreaking how they have to keep themselves in denial that their religion is hateful and archaic

i wouldn’t blame catholicism as a whole. growing up in a catholic household, my family are fully accepting of me being their transgender daughter. tbh, religion here in australia isnt as abused or strict as other countries, and nobody really seems to care too much about one’s sexuality or identity.

i definitely cannot speak for every catholic, however blaming an entire religion for the actions of hateful people that ruin it for the rest of the religion is almost equivalent to the toxic stereotypes some people make about our community.

overall it does suck though that the pope gets to make those types of decisions, ironically it kinda goes against what the bible says.

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Very interesting, I wonder if they'll end up being excommunicated (seriously).

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40 minutes ago, Xoxo Adriana said:

i wouldn’t blame catholicism as a whole. growing up in a catholic household, my family are fully accepting of me being their transgender daughter. tbh, religion here in australia isnt as abused or strict as other countries, and nobody really seems to care too much about one’s sexuality or identity.

i definitely cannot speak for every catholic, however blaming an entire religion for the actions of hateful people that ruin it for the rest of the religion is almost equivalent to the toxic stereotypes some people make about our community.

overall it does suck though that the pope gets to make those types of decisions, ironically it kinda goes against what the bible says.

I'm born and raised catholic, i live in a catholic area, i feel perfectly validated in blaming the catholic institution for spreading hate and intolerance and making my life a living hell

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Is it possible to impeach a pope

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"Thou shall not judge" - I know this has a very particular meaning (often people think it means you should not judge anyone/anything but really it means don't judge unless you want to be judged.) 

I've always thought it was odd that many people who hate LGBT people because of religion are the same ones who say "Only God can judge me" and then say God made us all a certain way and not to ask why God makes the decisions they do. I just tell people like this just worry about yourself lmao. 

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Good for him. Zaddy P.

P for Pastor

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27 minutes ago, littlepotter said:

I'm born and raised catholic, i live in a catholic area, i feel perfectly validated in blaming the catholic institution for spreading hate and intolerance and making my life a living hell

as stated in my previous quote, we are literally in the exact same boat about being born + raised catholic. believe me i know how it all works as well. by your logic, you’re indicating that my catholic family, as well as many other innocent catholic families are “hateful”. i will defend my family in this circumstance to tell you this is false. 

my point is that blaming the ENTIRE catholic religion for the actions of some, when there are actually some pretty civilised catholics out there, is indeed completely erasing the nice catholics/christians who don’t live with hate.

in your case i can completely sympathise, but do remember that it’s different for everyone. the bigoted ones use catholicism (or any religion) as a shield for their hatred. the bible never preached hatred, the ones who misinterpret the bible do. i’m not attacking you, i’m just correcting what you’re saying. if we don’t want the LGBTQ community generalised for the actions of some, then we shouldn’t do the same back.

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38 minutes ago, Xoxo Adriana said:

as stated in my previous quote, we are literally in the exact same boat about being born + raised catholic. believe me i know how it all works as well. by your logic, you’re indicating that my catholic family, as well as many other innocent catholic families are “hateful”. i will defend my family in this circumstance to tell you this is false. 

my point is that blaming the ENTIRE catholic religion for the actions of some, when there are actually some pretty civilised catholics out there, is indeed completely erasing the nice catholics/christians who don’t live with hate.

in your case i can completely sympathise, but do remember that it’s different for everyone. the bigoted ones use catholicism (or any religion) as a shield for their hatred. the bible never preached hatred, the ones who misinterpret the bible do. i’m not attacking you, i’m just correcting what you’re saying. if we don’t want the LGBTQ community generalised for the actions of some, then we shouldn’t do the same back.

I understand what you are saying but simply disagree. I said the catholic institution is hateful and corrupt, not every catholic person, as i know many people who are very nice. But when the vatican itself says our existence is sinful, and the vast majority of catholics believe that as well, that makes the "civilized" catholics a very small exception and not the majority. I'm talking about catholics because it's relevant to this situation, but of course i mean every religion or sect that discriminates against us. Catholics are actually less bigoted in comparison to other religions and sects because at least the pope did say supportive things about gay people (i.e. we don't deserve to die!) 

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3 hours ago, littlepotter said:

Sweet but heartbreaking how they have to keep themselves in denial that their religion is hateful and archaic

There is nothing wrong with the religion itself and even the bible, we just don’t know how to read it and apply it to today’s times. It’s taken too literally and outside the context. But the overall the message is of love, compassion and acceptance. Which we need. Sadly we get stuck in the cultural ways people lived 2000s years ago and cannot put it aside to see how the world is different today and how the Bible’s application cannot be the same. I am a spiritual person and I have been researching this for a while and the word homosexual doesn’t even exist in the original copies of the bible. The word translated as homosexual refers to something closer to pdfilia as during that time grown man would taken younger boys, castrate them and use them for pleasure, sometimes even in weird, spiritual rituals. The apostles were talking about that. Not to mention that during that time the concept of marriage which all christians scream as being fundamental and necessary before having sexual relationships didn’t even exist as we know it today. It was literally a transaction deal. I give you my daughter and you give me this. Or they would marry just to procreate, there was no love involved. So why don’t they marry the same today if they preach the Bible as being 100% correct. It’s the hypocrisy, misinformation, poor translations & lack of knowledge on how to read it. The Bible is very complex, its a history book, a philosophical book & a fictional book. And that is how you read it because it has all and not all is fictional, not all is historical and not all philosophical so you must read more than just the Bible to understand it.