Russia claims US pressured Brazil to reject Sputnik vaccine

[alsemanche 97,799]

3 minutes ago, hankhatesyouall said:

Stop watching Russia Today. 

Stop watching Fox News <3 and I'm someone who lives in the middle east and is directly affected by USA's (and Russia's, and the 500 other powers f*cking us over incuding our own govs) bullsh!t, so kindly stfu <3 

[hankhatesyouall 2,731]

Just now, alsemanche said:

Stop watching Fox News <3 and I'm someone who lives in the middle east and is directly affected by USA's bullsh!t, so kindly stfu <3 

Stop being brainwashed by Russian propaganda. 

As someone from Eastern Europe, I can see through every talking point you've just made. They are pushed by Russian propagandists 24/7. 

[alsemanche 97,799]

3 minutes ago, hankhatesyouall said:

Stop being brainwashed by Russian propaganda. 

As someone from Eastern Europe, I can see through every talking point you've just made. They are pushed by Russian propagandists 24/7. 

Thing is, you really think you have superior intellect here and you're arguing based on that. You really think you are "seeing through me" but really you're not even bothering to read what I'm saying. So maybe get off your high horse and actually listen to people who are struggling instead of deciding on sh!t you don't know anything about. If your only argument is that we are feeding off propaganda then you might as well stop arguing because it's a literal joke (and quite honestly insulting and belittling as f*ck).

And I'm pretty sure someone brainwashed by Russian propaganda like me wouldn't literally say f*ck Russia but okay go off I guess

[Regina George 59,387]

31 minutes ago, hankhatesyouall said:

Stop watching Russia Today. 

Your Trump supporter card is showing hard... 

[MJHolland 12,725]

1 hour ago, Morphine Prince said:

@MJHolland 

What that tweet says is indeed a fact. 

The point of a forum is to discuss topics (aka expand on them).There is no more context needed in the original post, imo. 

What everyone in this thread has discussed is valid. 

Brazil has just recently ordered 10M doses of this vaccine. 

The Tweet... yes... from the official Russian vaccine's Twitter handle.... citing a Kremlin report.... and making a claim that I can't even find on a single Western news source (pls feel free to share and correct me if I'm wrong). I wonder if it could be painting a biased picture 

Truth is, you did this last week when sharing only one perspective on Biden administration policy news. Providing multiple perspectives is the ethical thing to do when posting about news. Some people probably get their news from this site alone... 

[MJHolland 12,725]

1 hour ago, alsemanche said:

Thing is, you really think you have superior intellect here and you're arguing based on that. You really think you are "seeing through me" but really you're not even bothering to read what I'm saying. So maybe get off your high horse and actually listen to people who are struggling instead of deciding on sh!t you don't know anything about. If your only argument is that we are feeding off propaganda then you might as well stop arguing because it's a literal joke (and quite honestly insulting and belittling as f*ck).

And I'm pretty sure someone brainwashed by Russian propaganda like me wouldn't literally say f*ck Russia but okay go off I guess

 

49 minutes ago, Regina George said:

Your Trump supporter card is showing hard... 

Guys pls don't make me defend Hank... he is literally RIGHT!

This story reeks of Russia propaganda. The Twitter account that posted this report is Kremlin-owned and operated (it's also a Kremlin report). 

Like, literally just Google search for this news story... (https://www.google.com/search?q=us+sputnik+v+brazil&oq=us+sputnik+v+brazil+&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l3.6409j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)

You can't find a single news outlet that independently backs this claim. And the Russia/Kremlin report cites a public US government report from last year before Russia was even trying to send vaccines to Brazil

Y'all... I really think this is fake news propagated by the Kremlin 

[alsemanche 97,799]

3 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

 

Guys pls don't make me defend Hank... he is literally RIGHT!

This story reeks of Russia propaganda. The Twitter account that posted this report is Kremlin-owned and operated (it's also a Kremlin report). 

Like, literally just Google search for this news story... (https://www.google.com/search?q=us+sputnik+v+brazil&oq=us+sputnik+v+brazil+&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l3.6409j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)

You can't find a single news outlet that independently backs this claim. And the Russia/Kremlin report cites a public US government report from last year before Russia was even trying to send vaccines to Brazil

Y'all... I really think this is fake news propagated by the Kremlin 

I mean sure it could be, but that's not what he referred to as Russian propaganda in my post  

[MJHolland 12,725]

2 minutes ago, alsemanche said:

I mean sure it could be, but that's not what he referred to as Russian propaganda in my post  

I know, he specifically said your comment "the US destroyed the middle east" is propaganda, and I think he just said that because the US is definitely not 100% responsible (hello again, Russia!) 

But back to the matter at hand....

This thread is literally propaganda  like, I can ONLY find it from Russian sources (Russian Times, Russia Today, etc.), the Kremlin, and Reddit and Gaga Daily (they just cited the Kremlin report just like this Tweet). The only two instances of  non-Russian reporting I could find were two Brazilian news outlets — I don't know anything about them so idk if they're credible, but both of them just cited the Kremlin report.

AKA ZERO independent verification of this claim! @Morphine Prince pls put on your critical thinking hat bc I'm almost certain that we can all agree that this is propaganda 

[mightyriverz 2,653]

4 hours ago, hankhatesyouall said:

Yes, let's allow Russia to push its vaccine onto other countries despite being a huge gas station full of terrorists and war mongers 

i don't think americans have any rights to complain about Russia when you've just kicked out one of the worst presidents of all time in the whole world, and the US military is still bombing Syria..

[mightyriverz 2,653]

7 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

 I'm almost certain that we can all agree that this is propaganda 

and I was almost certain that you needed psychiatric help
but now I'm 500% sure 

[mightyriverz 2,653]

does anyone here know how to use google translate?
ta-da
 

https://g1.globo.com/mundo/noticia/2021/03/15/eua-pressionaram-brasil-a-nao-comprar-vacina-russa-contra-covid-diz-documento-do-governo-trump.ghtml

[MJHolland 12,725]

4 minutes ago, Luk said:

and I was almost certain that you needed psychiatric help
but now I'm 500% sure 

literally wtf ??? 

[MJHolland 12,725]

7 minutes ago, Luk said:

does anyone here know how to use google translate?
ta-da
 

https://g1.globo.com/mundo/noticia/2021/03/15/eua-pressionaram-brasil-a-nao-comprar-vacina-russa-contra-covid-diz-documento-do-governo-trump.ghtml

I do! From that article:

"...The Russian sovereign wealth fund, which finances Sputnik V, said that "the United States Department of Health has publicly confirmed that it has pressed Brazil against Sputnik V" and criticized the American government. "Countries must work together to save lives. Efforts to undermine vaccines are unethical and cost lives."

(AKA they're literally just citing the same Russia Kremlin tweet from this thread's OP...)

"However, there are no details in the HHS document of how this "persuasion" would have been exercised over the Bolsonaro government." 

(AKA literally no other evidence backs up this bogus reporting) 

"G1 also sought out Itamaraty [???], the US State Department and HHS, but did not receive a response until the publication of this report."

(AKA we didn't fact check this before reporting it either!)

I guess I need psychiatric help because I'm not stupid and gullible 

[hankhatesyouall 2,731]

 

1 hour ago, Regina George said:

Your Trump supporter card is showing hard... 

You are just spewing gibberish, exposing your lack of understanding of European geopolitics. 

Trump wasn't "tough" on Russia, but he never was the puppet that MSNBC was painting him to be.      

Trump signed a law that imposed sanctions on any firm that helps Russia's state-owned gas company, Gazprom, to build its Nord Stream 2 pipeline with Germany. 

I care about actions more than words. It remains to be seen whether Biden will follow suit. Politico reported that his administration was readying new sanctions on Nord Stream 2 a few days ago. Let's see if they will deliver them.

Russia finishing Nord Stream 2 would be detrimental for Eastern Europe, and it could undermine the security of the whole European region.  

[PartySick 172,536]

Can y'all ever debate politics without calling each other delusional and throwing around insults?