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JRCF29
22 hours ago, SharGaga said:

COATF was her peak artistically

Her peak was an album no one ever heard of?:billie:

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KeepItCool

As a Madonna fan, i'm glad that after almost 40 years in the business she has yet to rest on her legacy and perform the same show every couple of years on tour or play a residency - she could have easily have done this a LONG time ago - The Immaculate Collection alone has stood the test of time and she could have easily have strapped on a cone bra and ponytail for the last 20 years and played the same tired show and cleaned up in ticket sales.  Instead, Madonna continued to make new albums, experiment with sounds, set (and follow at times) trends, push boundaries, make statements, create actual shows with themes that only incorporate older hits - but don't revolve around her past, re-invent those hits, re-invented choreography, and deliver a new experience each and every time she goes on tour.  Speaking of her tours, the only time she even came close to a greatest hit's experience was the Re-Invention tour - but even then she included a lot of tracks from American Life - no, she wasn't going to hit play on the The Immaculate Collection CD and re-live the 80's.  Post Blond Ambition her tours have never really been "hit" friendly and really, up until BA her entire catalogue of music was all hits - her first few tour's set-list read like greatest hits tours and they weren't - her music is that big.   

Madonna's music has so much range - there's an album for every mood, songs that go from fun dance tracks to more serious topics - as well as fantastic music video catalogue.  

I'd be lying if I said I don't want ONE big GH tour from her - she's earned it.  But until that day comes i'll take anything new she has to offer (whether I love it or not is another story - but at least it's there).

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The one thing you guys wont ever understand is that Madonna was NEVER a one sided artist. 

In Hard Candy was she doing what she always did: experimenting.

MDNA: DIVORCE. Not a good album, but she was going through hell.

Rebel Heart: She was working with people that sell "singles" for a generation that does not know anything about her body of work. Plus the leaks. She had a concept: Rebel songs in one album, Heart in the other one. The **** record company said: NO.

Madame X: Madonna was light, curious, daring and again, interested in pushing the envelope for artists that, within 2 decades will thank her forever for daring to be whatever she wanted to be at the age of 62.

Madonna is never going to be understood by a generation that discredit her.

Just look up on google: King of Pop. MJ always.

Queen of pop: From Madonna to Billie Elish is going to pop up.

When people say that she "strugles to stay relevant...." seriously... Madonna does not give a **** about it. She does what she does only because she believes in her art and taught a whole generation of artists how to be in control of threir carrer without the need to please everybody. She will never do that.

The one thing you guys wont ever understand is that Madonna was NEVER a one sided artist. 

In Hard Candy was she doing what she always did: experimenting.

MDNA: DIVORCE. Not a good album, but she was going through hell.

Rebel Heart: She was working with people that sell "singles" for a generation that does not know anything about her body of work. Plus the leaks. She had a concept: Rebel songs in one album, Heart in the other one. The **** record company said: NO.

Madame X: Madonna was light, curious, daring and again, interested in pushing the envelope for artists that, within 2 decades will thank her forever for daring to be whatever she wanted to be at the age of 62.

Madonna is never going to be understood by a generation that discredit her.

Just look up on google: King of Pop. MJ always.

Queen of pop: From Madonna to Billie Elish is going to pop up.

When people say that she "strugles to stay relevant...." seriously... Madonna does not give a **** about it. She does what she does only because she believes in her art and taught a whole generation of artists how to be in control of threir carrer without the need to please everybody. She will never do that.

 

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Honestly I wanna know what happened to her VIBRATO?! I watched a recent performance where she was completely off key & her vibrato was so slow it sounded like she was struggling to even sing. Even in the Candy video above her vibrato sounds like it’s in slomo. It’s just odd.

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KURUSHITOVSKA
12 hours ago, lg5 said:

She should’ve taken notes from Cher on how to age gracefully as a pop star 

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¿Qué currículum tiene ésta tarántula?
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whore
21 hours ago, insight said:

The Pharrell production on Hard Candy was echoing the 2013 70s disco funk trend. She worked with trendy producers, but the tracks they produced didn't sound to me at all like a what was on the radio at that time.

Madonna was definitely working with both Timbaland and Pharrell to follow up the success of Nelly Furtado’s 2006 album Loose and Justin Timberlake’s 2006 album FutureSex/LoveSounds

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1 hour ago, KeepItCool said:

As a Madonna fan, i'm glad that after almost 40 years in the business she has yet to rest on her legacy and perform the same show every couple of years on tour or play a residency - she could have easily have done this a LONG time ago - The Immaculate Collection alone has stood the test of time and she could have easily have strapped on a cone bra and ponytail for the last 20 years and played the same tired show and cleaned up in ticket sales.  Instead, Madonna continued to make new albums, experiment with sounds, set (and follow at times) trends, push boundaries, make statements, create actual shows with themes that only incorporate older hits - but don't revolve around her past, re-invent those hits, re-invented choreography, and deliver a new experience each and every time she goes on tour.  Speaking of her tours, the only time she even came close to a greatest hit's experience was the Re-Invention tour - but even then she included a lot of tracks from American Life - no, she wasn't going to hit play on the The Immaculate Collection CD and re-live the 80's.  Post Blond Ambition her tours have never really been "hit" friendly and really, up until BA her entire catalogue of music was all hits - her first few tour's set-list read like greatest hits tours and they weren't - her music is that big.   

Madonna's music has so much range - there's an album for every mood, songs that go from fun dance tracks to more serious topics - as well as fantastic music video catalogue.  

I'd be lying if I said I don't want ONE big GH tour from her - she's earned it.  But until that day comes i'll take anything new she has to offer (whether I love it or not is another story - but at least it's there).

I hope that Gaga also follows this route and continues making new music until she’s gone, but I’d also like her to re-invent her hits, because most of the time it feels like they always have the same sound and choreo.

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Battle 4 Ur Life

figuring out a way to to explain how I think ROL is a masterpiece but also overrated.

it’s got some great tracks but some of it is filler.

she still released great songs after ROL that just didn’t make the same buzz for the GP. I don’t think she ever sold out. and she is still massive on tour, I can tell from experience.

so, I don’t think anything happened to her. people are just especially hard on female artists and it makes it really hard for them to stay on top.

“Fantastic, chic, freak, slay.”
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insight
4 hours ago, ***** said:

Madonna was definitely working with both Timbaland and Pharrell to follow up the success of Nelly Furtado’s 2006 album Loose and Justin Timberlake’s 2006 album FutureSex/LoveSounds

But Hard Candy didn't sound like these albums at all

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16 hours ago, Ronk said:

there is no much negativity in the news that I don't want to have any negativity in entertainment

 

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insight

MDNA turned out to be the way it was because she was doing multiple things at that time: finishing up WE, working on her perfume, hell even William Orbit mentioned he wished she was more available to work on the tracks, and she knew that she had to release a New album per her Live Nation deal, but i feel like she didn't take enough time to think everything through and felt rushed into recording it and getting over with it. 

There's a good portion of divorce/ post divorce-inspired tracks, which i think she should have developed that themr more on the record, rather than going for cheesy and cringe-worthy moments (Superstar, BDAy Song, Some Girls, GMAYL)..

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Hard Candy was a good record tbh. IT would have been much more appreciated IF her next album was back to being more serious but she unfortunately released one of her worst albums after Hard Candy (MDNA) so it often gets lumped in as the begining of her bad streak of albums but if you really listen back to Hard Candy and u watch the Sweet and Sticky tour it was actually really really a solid era. It just unfortunately came right before her creative downfall so it is lumped in with that time period when it should not imo

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Tulio1958
20 hours ago, lg5 said:

Ela deveria ter feito anotações de Cher sobre como envelhecer graciosamente como uma estrela pop 

standing on stage while the dancers and playback do all the work?
I think this is not very difficult

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