Just A Holy Fool 1,452 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I've struggled with this off and on, especially since all the allegations of his inappropriate behaviour with minors was brought back into focus by Finding Neverland. The accounts given in that were so damning and I found the victims very credible. It was the first time we actually heard directly from alleged victims. Apparently the estate won a recent court challenge to take their lawsuit against HBO to arbitration, basically clearing the way for HBO to be held liable for damages for releasing the documentary. The estate is seeking $100 million. The estate claims it violated a non-disparaging clause they signed in the 1990s with MJ. https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/michael-jackson-leaving-neverland-lawsuit-appeal-1234853036/ I love MJ's music, and I still enjoy listening to it, but every time I do I question if I should. Do others struggle with this? 1 1 2 1 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SEANGT 3,948 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 it's easier if you just make it a personal decision since that's all you have control over. I'm sure he's guilty. I still will listen to his songs if they come on but I'm not seeking them out. 18 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KanyeWest 18,439 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 No because he's not a pedophile Kanye West Is Blonde And Gone 6 5 1 27 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LittleMonster20 7,562 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I’ve thought about this too but I’m just going to give him the benefit of the doubt because he’s not here to defend himself anymore. Pop Music Emergency 16 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WhoDoWeHaveHere Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 He's dead. How much more do you want to cancel him? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Retron 2,597 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I think he did it. But he was too ingrained in the culture to properly cancel. Regardless, it's my opinion that people should just listen to his music for what it is, and divorce it from the man... because he's dead... so... 🤷♂️. 11 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Just A Holy Fool 1,452 Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 Just now, Retron said: I think he did it. But he was too ingrained in the culture to properly cancel. Regardless, it's my opinion that people should just listen to his music for what it is, and divorce it from the man... because he's dead... so... 🤷♂️. I think if what happened to him in 1993 happened to a superstar today in 2021... they would be definitely cancelled. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
agentprovocate 70 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 5 minutes ago, KanyeWest said: No because he's not a pedophile and you know this because!?!?!?!?!? 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryusei 55,549 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 He's dead.... what's the point? Stan Fujii Kaze 1 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Just A Holy Fool 1,452 Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 Just now, Ryusei said: He's dead.... what's the point? Its a valid conversation to have because even though MJ the person is dead, his likeness and estate still generate more per year than most superstars currently... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Retron 2,597 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, Just A Holy Fool said: I think if what happened to him in 1993 happened to a superstar today in 2021... they would be definitely cancelled. Totally. But they also wouldn't be Michael F'n Jackson. Even by 1993, he was king. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KanyeWest 18,439 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, agentprovocate said: and you know this because!?!?!?!?!? do your research about who these people are in leaving neverland then u'll see Kanye West Is Blonde And Gone 8 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gumzy3000 4,307 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I feel like we will never know the 100% complete truth. That is why I strongly believe in separating the art from the artist in some situations. Unless it is explicit and obvious of course - but I would be a hypocrite cause I still listen to DWUW with R.Kelly. A messy blend of logic and sass 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kukuryku666 3,197 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 You can always download his discography or buy it second hand and enjoying it without supporting him/his label be queer, do crime 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andreu 36,191 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) The way I see it, the point of cancelling someone should be that you decide you will make sure you don't give money to that artist, that you don't want to help them become any more famous and overall that you don't want to support them. In this case, Michael is dead so he won't see any money and he can't get any more famous, so it's pointless imo. Edited February 24 by Andreu before there was love there was silence 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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