Chromatican 4,046 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just now, elijahfan said: You guys are playing on words... The title is obviously implying JK contributed to this hate climate. And she might have tbh: I still don't think she meant anyone any harm, but her opinion was probably a little too subtle for most to fully grasp, especially the media who loves to over-simplify everything, so suddenly it became Ok in the UK to publicly trash trans people. If anything, I'd say the media is more responsible than JK... But the truth is: there's a social problem in the UK regarding trans issues, and there has been for years. I'd say JK is more a consequence of that than a cause. But hey, we all love a famous scapegoat. The thread title is pointing out a fact, like JK did when she said sex was real. Facts are neutral, you guys are the ones connecting the dots and saying we are scapegoating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMonster20 9,900 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Transphobia is just men that are insecure in their sexuality and ugly old women being pissed that someone who was born as a male makes a prettier and more sexually desired woman. Of course they are loud and violent. I’m trans and thankfully I live somewhere where people are surprisingly accepting of trans people but regardless of where you are from or who you are if you are trans please take care. These people are pretty ruthless in their hatred and their delusion of thinking being transgender is a ‘choice’ or even worse ‘a way to get into opposite sex spaces to molest them’ when it’s literally been proven multiple times that there is a biological basis for being transgender called gender incongruence. Trans women are women and trans men are men. End of story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 JKR makes transphobic comments Media reports on JKR's transphobic comments People who share JKR's transphobic views see her comments in the media, feel emboldened Hate crimes occur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 27,560 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chromatican said: The thread title is pointing out a fact, like JK did when she said sex was real. Facts are neutral, you guys are the ones connecting the dots and saying we are scapegoating. So they could have chosen any event in 2020 to put context into this - and yet, they chose JK gate. And you want to convince us all that it's an innocent choice? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsemanche 97,826 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, elijahfan said: I still don't think she meant anyone any harm, but her opinion was probably a little too subtle for most to fully grasp, especially the media who loves to over-simplify everything Here we go with the intellectual elitism again. Her "opinion" was made repeatedly clear with each time she spoke about it. It wasn't as "subtle" as people make it to be, and it was definitely transphobic. And shifting the blame to the media is nonsensical. Of course the media is sh!t, but that doesn't make it more accountable than Rowling who initially spewed her transphobic "opinion". Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 25 minutes ago, FATCAT said: Report any transphobes that pop in here to troll! Tag me in the report if it's urgent I read this and then saw the urgency in your avatar and laughed. oh lawd he comin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaSine 7,464 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, bionic said: JKR makes transphobic comments Media reports on JKR's transphobic comments People who share JKR's transphobic views see her comments in the media, feel emboldened Hate crimes occur Nooo JKR is a sweet innocent who just thinks trans people are irreversibly maimed the second they take a hormone pill or injection and are stealing womanhood from the all important uterus bearers that is a harmless opinion that totally isn’t rooted in deeply held transmisogyny that every bigot holds close to their heart like a bible /s ppl truly have no capacity for reading between the lines, the reason trans people reacted so strongly to her various tweets and statements because they recognized it from all the transphobia 101 that they’ve experienced for years, but people will still shrug their shoulders and insist JKR is harmless or stating an innocuous opinion anyway i’m exiting this thread for my own mental well being lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatican 4,046 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, elijahfan said: So they could have chosen any event in 2020 to put context into this - and yet, they chose JK gate. And you want to convince us all that it's an innocent choice? Just like JK repeating transphobic talking points was just stating her opinion and the people calling her transphobic were the ones adding context. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 27,560 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, alsemanche said: Here we go with the intellectual elitism again. Her "opinion" was made repeatedly clear with each time she spoke about it. It wasn't as "subtle" as people make it to be, and it was definitely transphobic. She wrote a 3,600-word long essay to explain her views, so obviously it's a bit more complex than that. Not that most of her attackers bothered reading it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 118,006 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Hate it that it had to be a woman who amalgamate this. But fck, this is super aggravating and sad. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ ⁱᵐ'ᵐᵃ ʰⁱᵗ ᵈᵉᶠʳᵒˢᵗ ᵒⁿ ʸᵃ, ˡᵉᵗ'ˢ ᵍᵉᵗ ⁱᵗ ᵇˡᵃᶻⁱⁿᵍ﹗ (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatican 4,046 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, elijahfan said: She wrote a 3,600-word long essay to explain her views, so obviously it's a bit more complex than that. Not that most of her attackers bothered reading it. I guess if you explain your bigoted thoughts with a long-winded essay it makes it nuanced and okay, then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 27,560 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Chromatican said: Just like JK repeating transphobic talking points was just stating her opinion and the people calling her transphobic were the ones adding context. I don't really get what point you're trying to make, but OK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delulu Rogers 7,678 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 I haven’t followed JK. What did she say about trans? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 27,560 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just now, Chromatican said: I guess if you explain your bigoted thoughts with a long-winded essay it makes it nuanced and okay, then? Well read it and you'll tell me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatican 4,046 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just now, elijahfan said: I don't really get what point you're trying to make, but OK. The point I'm making is that when JK started being transphobic a lot of people said we were spinning narratives and overreacting, and in this thread you guys who support JK seem to be doing just that, claiming that the op is blaming JK directly when he never said that, he is just bringing up a correlated point to that correlated with an increase in violence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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