Chromatography 10,186 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 i’m incredibly happy for them, but it does confuse me — why would a transgender person want to serve and protect a place that has historically and will probably for the distant future treat them like a second class citizen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatography 10,186 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 hours ago, MJHolland said: Military service is often the only way for trans people to escape toxic, transphobic small towns and families. That's why trans people are 5x more likely to join the military than cis people. Sure the military isn't a perfect home, we all know how much reform it needs. But it's a right that shouldn't be denied, and who the hell are you to judge them for making that choice. posted my reply before reading this, thank you that clears up my question Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaSine 7,464 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 21 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said: Did you go to the capitol to keep Gaga safe from another insurgency. Nope, the military did. This is an incredibly pathetic line of reasoning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, GagaSine said: This is an incredibly pathetic line of reasoning Well that's uncalled for. So whoever doesn't agree with you is pathetic. I gave you an instance when the military did something good. They kept Gaga safe. Now I'm pathetic. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaSine 7,464 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said: Well that's uncalled for. So whoever doesn't agree with you is pathetic. I gave you an instance when the military did something good. They kept Gaga safe. Now I'm pathetic. I’m sorry but Gaga is nothing compared to the countless innocent people slaughtered by the US military overseas, and I say this while holding Gaga to very high esteem. It is a very childish & naive argument that you made. Any good they do is heavily outweighed by the bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 The US military is the largest employer in the country. They offer career training, excellent (and free) health insurance, lodging for you and your immediate family, education benefits, 30 days paid vacation, bonuses, housing loans, and a salary. The overwhelming majority of military service people are stationed in the states or in peaceful nations. (Our allies) There are hundreds of thousands, actually more like a couple of million, that will never see any kind of combat. They are in tens of thousands of support jobs and are being trained for a world outside of the military. Many people join after high school to gain a useful skill they can use after they serve or to help pay for college. For those that don’t want to go to college and don’t have the money for trade school, the military can be an option to make a salary and learn a skill. Good for Biden! Trump’s decision needed to be reversed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nano 3,744 Posted January 26, 2021 Author Share Posted January 26, 2021 15 hours ago, imnotyourbabe10 said: Good news to be seen as equal in the eyes of the law and repealing a fascist E.O....but then again, that's a military law we're now equal under...eek! A great resource as to why radicals are not for LGBTQ+ inclusion in institutions such as: marriage, the military industrial complex, and the prison industrial complex is "Against Equality: Queer Revolution, Not Mere Inclusion." It critiques the neoliberal idea of assimilation to the norm for the said minority group. From the website: "'Equality' is a concept inextricably linked to positive social progress, but as the authors collected here suggest, it’s a concept that often functions as a smoke screen to hide a world riddled with systemic injustice. Take marriage, for instance: is the right to marry whomever we want really a worthy goal for the queer community? What if this perceived “right” is actually a wrong? Against Equality suggests that seeking inclusion in a system that’s based on institutional and economic exploitation is an unacceptable path forward." http://www.againstequality.org/stuff/against-equality-queer-revolution-not-mere-inclusion/ (I'd also say it's key to have a discussion about equality vs. equity but this isn't the thread for that lol). I really appreciate this resource. Thank you for sharing, I'm looking forward to reading more about this dichotomy. Again on the surface the repeal looked great which is why I shared it. After more consideration, I can see that your point of view (and the other anti-US military views offered by others) have merit as well. You chew beef, I wear meat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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