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Whole Foods CEO: “Best solution is to not need healthcare”


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35 minutes ago, urgirl said:

obesity is caused by excessive over consumption of food and that does not seem like symptom of being too poor to afford food. America has a big problem with over eating, especially over eating junk food, and its causing unnecessarily and fatal health problems for millions of people....  I don't really understand why people want to deny these things. we need to acknowledge the problem in order to fix it. 

soooo missing the point. Compare the price of a big mac to a proper home cooked or organic store meal. 

Seen the “problem” that you’re crying about? 

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StarstruckIllusion

This thread of good arguments is delicious. Whole Foods CEO getting too loud w the dumb ****. I bet DC and Wall Street thinks he’s a hero standing up to the social dems 💀 Lunatics... 

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StarstruckIllusion
56 minutes ago, Chromatican said:

This man also called ObamaCare fascism. Add that to the mp @Morphine Prince

Obamacare is literally the right wing plan of 2010 😭 Even most republicans for mind it, and try and repeal just for show. It’s why they’ve never even tried to come up w their own plan. Now imagine being further right against that. Whole Foods CEO is literally evil chile...

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RAMROD

LMAO isn't that store is some stuck up grocery store that was frequented by mostly vegans too? So this this what y'all vegans enabled. :bradley:

Also:

https://www.streetroots.org/news/2020/07/03/opinion-i-work-whole-foods-and-i-am-calling-out-its-hypocrisy

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GagaSine
1 minute ago, RAMROD said:

LMAO isn't that store is some stuck up grocery store that was frequented by mostly vegans too? So this this what y'all vegans enabled. :bradley:

Also:

https://www.streetroots.org/news/2020/07/03/opinion-i-work-whole-foods-and-i-am-calling-out-its-hypocrisy

:triggered: literally has nothing to do with vegans explicitly, Gwyneth Paltrow health food types that think celery juice will cure cancer are more their clientele. I personally avoid Whole Foods because it’s overpriced af and its ties to amazon.

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1 hour ago, Morphine Prince said:

"The best solution is to change the way people eat, the way they live, the lifestyle, and diet," Mackey says.

This part is true, but phrasing it by saying "Best solution is not to need healthcare" was about the worst way he could have phrased it lol.

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JohnnyVersace

I agree people should live a healthy lifestyle w a good diet, exercise, mental health support, etc. But, in order to do so, it costs MONEY. You can't buy fresh produce, supplements, or locally sourced organic ingredients on minimum wage. And I'm sure he cant even fathom that.

Plus, the comment about medicine is so off-putting in this time. A healthy lifestyle does not negate the need for healthcare or medicine. Like, the way out of COVID isn't by eating kale and taking ginger shots :lolga:

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Morphine Prince
1 hour ago, KanyeWest said:

I have difficulty understand that though. Im not rich id say im between poor and middle class and i always eat healthy. Fruits and veggies are not that expensive, i can get apples for 0,69 cents the kilo, but i noticed in the US, for 2 apples it would cost me much more, I even tried buying lettuce, tomatos, carrots to make a salad and found that i dont have enough money for that. That's the basics here at least in EU, but even in North Africa...you go to the souk in Morocco and buy fruits and veggies for 50 cents the kilo, and Morocco is not as powerful and rich as the US and never will be. So there's a big issue in the US with how it's ran. It seems like it's not truly a country made for its people but for money

Your last sentence is the truth. 

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buzzkill

Sometimes i wonder why some people say those kind of things... it just so dumb? 

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Alvaro Moreno Ullrich
3 hours ago, KEVIN STEVE said:

“71% of Americans are overweight and 42.5% are obese” 

Omg, are these numbers accurate? :air:

Maybe, but they are not far from the truth honey

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Fresco

As someone who has read a few diet books, this is not a new or unique concept. Look at type 2 diabetes and heart disease. Or even just type 2 diabetes. This is a preventable disease that can be cured by carefully managing diet. The disease is common and costs lots of money to treat with drugs. The eventual complications and surgeries for later complications add more to the cost. It would be much cheaper if people with type 2 diabetes could just prevent it or cure themselves by eating a careful diet. 

Some people want organic food, free of pesticides and herbicides, in a small store with limited choices so they don't get tempted to buy heavily processed empty calories. I can get whole foods easily at other stores without overpaying at Whole Foods, so I'm not a customer. I don't like the taste of their gluten-free products either.

I didn't read the entire article, but the headline is defendable, for certain diseases. Certainly not every disease can be treated with diet alone. :saladga: 

Eating healthy does not have to be very expensive. Baked chicken with baked potato, carrots and a banana is cheap. Yes,  it's comparable to the cost of a big mac per serving. It's also commonly avalable, unless people are literally shopping at gas stations. 

Processed food adds salt, sugar, fats, and preservatives. Tastes good, lasts a long time. The additives are not as good for your health, but some cooks add all that in home cooking anyway. :saladga:

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Economy
5 hours ago, Chromatican said:

What an utter tool. This is how a ton of right-wingers and non-critical thinking capitalist bootlickers think. No critical analysis whatsoever.

He's being insensitive and oversimplifying the matter

 

But I can honestly say both left and right are guilty of not analysing certain things tbh. This isn't a "right wing" issue seems more like a human issue to me

 

 

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5 hours ago, Miss Dolly said:

If only healthy food was cheaper

 

5 hours ago, Chromatican said:

Most people in the country cannot afford to eat healthy, and a huge part of the country cannot afford to eat at all hence the foodlines.

I don't think this is a full on excuse. It's true a lot of the easiest and most affordable stuff is bad for u

 

But ppl in far poorer countries with less to live on for a long time did not eat as much processed food as we have

 

It's also about planning. Some fruits and vegetables are more expensive than others. There's countless options to choose from. It's not easy but it's not impossible to eat healthy on a tight budget...

 

My family managed to avoid eating too much unhealthy food when I was young and we were dirt poor to the point where I had to take Luke warm baths in winter cuz we had to ration the propane

 

It's less convinient and more work to plan healthy eating on a budget and I think that's what truly deters people, not that it can't actually be done

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GagaSine
6 minutes ago, Economy said:

 

I don't think this is a full on excuse. It's true a lot of the easiest and most affordable stuff is bad for u

 

But ppl in far poorer countries with less to live on for a long time did not eat as much processed food as we have

 

It's also about planning. Some fruits and vegetables are more expensive than others. There's countless options to choose from. It's not easy but it's not impossible to eat healthy on a tight budget...

 

My family managed to avoid eating too much unhealthy food when I was young and we were dirt poor to the point where I had to take Luke warm baths in winter cuz we had to ration the propane

 

It's less convinient and more work to plan healthy eating on a budget and I think that's what truly deters people, not that it can't actually be done

My family is also poor and we ate quite healthy as my mom cooked everything from scratch and we almost never got ‘fast food’ except on birthdays, but that isn’t realistic for everyone. Also remember that food prices have increased since you were young, and inflation etc.

The government subsidizes meat, dairy and things like corn too much, they should subsidize fresh produce too. The reason people in third world/poorer countries can eat relatively “healthy” is because our produce comes from there, so it makes sense that locals would have access to by products/veg that wasn’t good enough to sell for cheaper, among tons of other factors.

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13 minutes ago, GagaSine said:

My family is also poor and we ate quite healthy as my mom cooked everything from scratch and we almost never got ‘fast food’ except on birthdays, but that isn’t realistic for everyone. Also remember that food prices have increased since you were young, and inflation etc.

The government subsidizes meat, dairy and things like corn too much, they should subsidize fresh produce too. The reason people in third world/poorer countries can eat relatively “healthy” is because our produce comes from there, so it makes sense that locals would have access to by products/veg that wasn’t good enough to sell for cheaper, among tons of other factors.

It's true but there's still a lot of healthy or at least not overly processed things out there that are not particularly expensive... A few examples:

 

- baby carrots

- potatoes 

- beans 

- chick peas

- tuna

- rice

 

This is just a quick off the top of my head stuff there's certainly a lot more items. 

 

U don't have to buy pre packaged stuff or pasta all the time. There are affordable healthy or relatively healthy stuff too. But it takes work and preparation. I honestly think that's what truly ends up getting in the way

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