UnknownUser71 2,878 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Economy said: But yeah again, if it involves hate, opression or discrimination, that's when opinion for me is not as easy to justify as just an "opinion" because that "opinion" is literally potentially dangerous to many I agree with this, but I have learned that not everyone sees things as I see them, you know. I don't know Joe personally, so I guess I'll never get to know why he supported Trump. I'm not justifying his opinion at all (I highly disagree with it), but I think that every opinion is valid, because we all are diferent people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaUnderYou 4,973 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Mr. Germanotta does not need forgiveness from Lady Gaga fans. He is her father, show some respect. If anything he need forgiveness from his daughter, but her fans, he owes nothing to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 48,144 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Mister D said: I agree with this, but I have learned that not everyone sees things as I see them, you know. I don't know Joe personally, so I guess I'll never get to know why he supported Trump. I'm not justifying his opinion at all (I highly disagree with it), but I think that every opinion is valid, because we all are diferent people. Look I don't judge everyone who was at one time a trump supporter. They may have liked his economic policies perhaps who knows. We didn't know him in as much detail back then as we do now and that could of been Joe Bidens case for all we know. I never liked Trump from the beggining for a number of reasons but I did understand why some might support him early on. But now we've seen the full scope of what he stands for and that includes discrimination which is something I can't justify as an opinion, I think that's inexcusable I added a part to my last comment but u replied before I added it in. I was saying Hitler also had his "opinions" and had the power to carry it out. Millions of people lost their lives and countless others tortured in work camps because of his opinions and beliefs. Can anyone on their right mind say that's a valid opinion that can't be judged? If anyone does I think they are insane I get that Hitler is an extreme case. But I think the general principal of what I'm trying to explain is still the same so I brought up a more extreme real example to get my point across that certain things are not just opinions, they are hateful things that should not be tolerated by anyone or excused as an opinion. Some stuff should not be an opinion from anyone and should be judged But again, I do agree with u overall. For the majority of things I think people are entitled to have a different view point and I'm pretty judgemental free even with ppl that don't share my opinion... Even if I don't agree I can usually still see their point of view or reasoning and even if I can't it's still an opinion ppl have a right to like u said It's only when u cross certain lines for harming others and discriminating that I think the opinion argument doesn't hold, and in the case of Donald Trump I can definitely think of a few that would fit that description so if someone supports him now Id have a hard time passing it off as just an opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillerMonster 2,361 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I still support him. Not because he supports Trump. But because he is Gaga’s dad. I’m not going to stop being friends with everyone who has different views than me. It’s the grown up thing to do. Don’t play with me, it just hurts me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Reputation 797 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Ya, I will at least people have the RIGHT to formulate their own opinions on who they choose to vote for. It isn’t right for either side to demonize the other. I’m sure he doesn’t support everything trump stands for either. When it’s dark outside you’re always the light Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,135 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 No & they shouldn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,723 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Uh is he going to apologize and not be a monster? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,723 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Also it’s not the adult thing to do to forgive Trump supporters. Supporting that man is heinous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemanja 595 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Who even care about that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanadelduck 1,951 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 How do we know he supports trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose P 23,341 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Why should we forgive or not? He doesn’t even know we exist, he’s not our father I mean, he sucks but what we think means nothing. That’s his family’s place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebi 13,928 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 At least he's NOT taking advantage / making money off of her daughter. There are worst cases in the industry and y'all should already know it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubbyGaga 2,346 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 No. He’s a deadbeat just like most of our own dads. Next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubbyGaga 2,346 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 4 hours ago, KillerMonster said: I still support him. Not because he supports Trump. But because he is Gaga’s dad. I’m not going to stop being friends with everyone who has different views than me. It’s the grown up thing to do. Gag me with a spork. Can we not with this narrative? Those who vote against our own health and well-being don’t deserve sympathy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sister 9,907 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 11 hours ago, Queen Bitch said: Forgive him for what, having an opinion? As if he gives a f*ck what Little Monsters think about him. Our "forgiveness" means nothing. I don't care about celebrities friends and family members, to where I follow their likes or opinions, so I have the same no nonsense view here, which he probably has about our thoughts on him. To me, this is completely between Gaga's family. I am a mere fan. He's not any more cool than anyone else I don't know, just because he is Gaga's dad. I can't lever how informed he is or not. The future's uncertain and the end is always near. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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