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Gaga is slowly becoming an “Industry Puppet”


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FATCAT
18 minutes ago, Suspiria said:

I agree with most of your point but the last part:ladyhaha:

She's worth over 300 million dollars. She could never lift a finger again and still make thousands if not millions every year from royalties/streams/old album sales. She's really not struggling to pay her bills.

I don’t mean it as a real struggle :ladyhaha:

just that if her options are to waste the height of her popularity and not tie her brand to big bucks, or to get those big bucks, she might as well. 

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35 minutes ago, Sorcerer92 said:

I still can't believe people take "music not the bling" seriously :ladyhaha: 

Then she shouldn’t have said in a serious tone and preached about not selling herself... 

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Sorcerer92
3 minutes ago, Kimmo said:

Then she shouldn’t have said in a serious tone and preached about not selling herself... 

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Then you shouldn't have been clutching to the words of a celebrity like a pearl necklace :vegas:

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5 minutes ago, Kimmo said:

Then she shouldn’t have said in a serious tone and preached about not selling herself... 

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The lyric is literally “I TRY to sell myself” :awkney:

 

I think people misunderstand that lyric. I might make a thread about it soon. 

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3 minutes ago, Sorcerer92 said:

Then you shouldn't have been clutching to the words of a celebrity like a pearl necklace :vegas:

 

1 minute ago, HausOfAntonio said:

The lyric is literally “I TRY to sell myself” :awkney:

 

I think people misunderstand that lyric. I might make a thread about it soon. 

I guess she wasn’t “really laughing” then...

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Sorcerer92
1 minute ago, Kimmo said:

 

I guess she wasn’t “really laughing” then...

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Ah I get it now; we are being punked :lolga:

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JoanneMonster

People here acting as if Gaga had 1$ in her bank account and that without haus labs she would be living in the streets...

She can absolutely stop working right now and still have a perfect life where she can do, buy, and go wherever she wants.

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Regina George
37 minutes ago, FATCAT said:

I don't understand why everyone is concerned about whether Haus Labs is a cash grab or not. It's a product her and her team have put a lot of work into, and it's paying off. Sure, it's not music, but in a world where she can't tour there's not much she can do music wise to actually keep up with her bills. 

She doesn’t have to work a day for the rest of her life and she’d still have more than enough at this point. That argument is tired. She is doing Haus Labs and other cash grabs because she wants to and that is that. She is not struggling financially at all. The thing is she claims she loves music and is passionate about it but she’s just not showing that.  

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26 minutes ago, kukuryku666 said:

Do you know what industry plant means? No, ok. Don't use it then

RIGHT :lmao:

Industry plant is an upcoming artist with major label backing but presents themselves as 'self-made'/independent

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Just now, Kimmo said:

 

I guess she wasn’t “really laughing” then...

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Well the point of it is that selling oneself is part of the cult of celebrity that Gaga has always been obsessed with, and inserting herself into that sphere comes with having to play with a system that is inherently exploitative. During ARTPOP that insertion itself was Gaga’s subversion. Today for all we know she can be laughing from behind the scenes making music with her friends while selling herself to millions and we will never know. We don’t know her mind and her day to day life after all. 

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47 minutes ago, Frivolero said:

There is nothing to return to, she is looking forward and I think the fans need to accept that :messga:.

 

 

This sums up everything. There's no place for nostalgia as these are different times. 

Let's be grateful for what we got, what we get and stop holding onto the past. 

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Sneaky Oliver

She released a full album, two singles including a Hot100 #1 debut, 3 music videos and a bunch of remixes. How exactly she's losing touch with music industry? :yennefer:  also remember she was about to start a new tour and festival performances which both revolve around music too.

I think it's very unfair not to take pandemics in consideration before stating things like this. Yes many other artists managed to follow new schedules but maybe Gaga couldn't keep up with them or simply felt like this is not the right time.

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4 minutes ago, Regina George said:

The thing is she claims she loves music and is passionate about it but she’s just not showing that.  

She just released an album 6 months ago :air: According to this logic Adele isn’t passionate about music because her last album came out half a decade ago? 

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NFRatwell
47 minutes ago, Frivolero said:

If I were doing music for 10 years, and be constantly held to pop music by suppressing fans, even when throughout my career I had done country and jazz and had fans not appreciating much of that, I would wanna do something different. Including business launches and stuff. When she was making perfumes she hated, I doubted she had any say in the things that would have been released under her name. Now? She is independent and can choose different make up launches etc. It was never a question with dealing with quick money grabs. Everything is a "quick" money grab..  it's just that now she is liking the things that she is doing. 

Can anyone really blame her for losing touch with pop music? Well, I think she will never lose touch with music in general, but how many times can she really say over and over "this is the dance floor I fought for". There is nothing to return to, she is looking forward and I think the fans need to accept that :messga:.

If not appreciated much of that means still getting her albums to #1 and having sold out shows then yeah, I guess you’re right :laughga: Idk why so many people want to paint this picture that Gaga is always forced by fans to do dance pop. Sure there may be a handful of people who never touch her other music but it’s not the GP that made her jazz residency sold out and it wasn’t the GP or Tony Bennett’s fans that got CTC to #1. 

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