Monsters, Time To Think Big Picture

[SpookyKid 15,117]

43 minutes ago, NFRatwell said:

she has yet to deliver the experience she promoted when the album dropped in May (Chromatica TV, a Chromatica universe, new music, etc.). 

I'm sorry, but she didn't promise any of these things, new music? you got it. Chromatica TV? She never said what it was going to be, so for all we know it was just for the VMA. It was Monsters setting themselves for dissapointment.

[Blastertoyo 22,728]

I think you meant 

Best Picture

[NFRatwell 23,290]

21 minutes ago, SpookyKid said:

I'm sorry, but she didn't promise any of these things, new music? you got it. Chromatica TV? She never said what it was going to be, so for all we know it was just for the VMA. It was Monsters setting themselves for dissapointment.

“Multiple versions will exist” “Chromatica Universe” BloodPop also teased finishing Sophie songs and presenting them in the “Chromatica Universe” this summer. (Before you come at me saying that’s BloodPop teasing not Gaga, it’s her album. If her producers are teasing something that means she’s letting them do it. I can assure you BloodPop cannot just say random **** about Gaga’s future plans lol). 

We know what Chromatica TV was. It was a website for chatting, playing music and videos. She teased it during the ROM promo and that’s how we found out about it. Just because you don’t remember these things or never learned about them doesn’t mean the people that do are delusional or setting themselves up for disappointment. Let’s just end it at that, because I’m bored of trying to explain this to everyone. You can pretend Gaga didn’t promote this album and sell it as something bigger, but don’t attack those that don’t. 

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1 hour ago, Sorcerer92 said:

I would be very content if Lady Gaga's trajectory in this new decade (and the rest of her career) went the way of either Cher or Cyndi Lauper. 

I feel her career is turning out to be more like Barbra Streisand with both successful music and film careers going hand in hand 

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Just now, Adarsh said:

I feel her career is turning out to be more like Barbra Streisand with both successful music and film careers going hand in hand 

I feel like a horrible gay because I really know nothing about Barbra

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3 minutes ago, Sorcerer92 said:

I feel like a horrible gay because I really know nothing about Barbra

Barbra is my second favourite artist after Gaga so I literally worship her. She’s the most successful female albums artist of all time in America (with only the Beatles and Rolling Stones ahead of her), not to mention she won best actress at the Oscars with her debut role 

[Sepsami 17,781]

The fact that Gaga's appeal or image was never meant to be the sexy pop girl also helps 100%, Gaga's career is based on shock value & talent, for that reason I think she will have a very long career ahead of her. And who knows, she might get another big role in massive hit like ASIB Unlike many of her peers, her options are endless 

[LilyLark 9,966]

4 hours ago, Sepsami said:

The fact that Gaga's appeal or image was never meant to be the sexy pop girl also helps 100%, Gaga's career is based on shock value & talent, for that reason I think she will have a very long career ahead of her. And who knows, she might get another big role in massive hit like ASIB Unlike many of her peers, her options are endless 

Yup, I love Katy but her career was basically built on her being the sexy 25 year old who told fart jokes. When she got older and political (nothing wrong with that) the ageism + the fact that it directly contradicted the foundation in which she built her public persona hurt her badly imo.

I actually think Bullet Train will be a massive hit. Brad will probably get most of the credit, but the rest of the cast (including Gaga) will get their flowers too imo.

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the only big picture i'm thinking about lately 

 

 

op: I'm very much confident that in 20 yrs from now.. she will be in the likes of Barbara Streisand, Cher, Celine Dion... I mean just look at this woman at her mid 30s and all of her achievements in just a span of 10 years

[LilyLark 9,966]

Yup. Fans always go "but Madonna"...without recognizing Madonna is an exception and even then her #s aren't that strong anymore. The pop industry  is super, super ageist and while some stars can "transform" their "bright young thing" image many can not do so and retain the majority of their fanbase. Even the critics are sort of ageist at times.... I kind of believe that's why Taylor ditched the pink glitter and has transformed her music/style into a quasi Joni Mitchell meets Stevie Nicks vibe after some critics kind of came after her for the visuals/lyrics for Lover. And it's definitely a gendered thing, because there are plenty of male artists in their 30s who don't get deemed immature.

I got dragged for this in the past, but I really think Gaga's either going to go more experimental (a la 911) or to a more safe, non EDM sound (You & I, The Edge of Glory) after Chromatica. Fans/critics just tend to not be there for older dance pop girls who are mainstream or even semi-mainstream, but if she goes full on weird the critics (and some fans) will still be there for her imo (look at the rave reviews for the 911 MV). Chromatica in some ways felt like fan service, a final for the dance floor, before critics & fans start sniping at her. And it was a big success despite some fans griping—a top 5 and a 1# single with the album debuting at #1 and being one of the best selling albums of 2020.

Anyway, I could see her being like Cher (known more for her acting) in the long run with albums that are less mainstream (Roisin Murphy, Robyn) or more mainstream but not traditional dance pop.