LittleMonster20 9,858 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, BornAsUnic0rn said: About the first thing: The song is not that serious, but the reaction it received, and the way it is basically people really loving OR hating it shouldn’t be brushed aside as just “meme” without value. Looking at the people who celebrate it but also looking at the people who oppose a f*cking stupid song about having (sexual fun), it paints a clear picture about where we as a society stand. I brought Gaga into this because she is notably outspoken politically, this forum is about her and these last years she started to talk about politics in the safest way possible, while Cardi reminds me very much of the fearless outspoken Gaga we had till 2012. On a side note: We always ask “who is the new Gaga?” and I actually think Cardi is very comparable to Gaga, while or maybe just because she is just so different. It’s just not comparable. It will be remembered as a funny hit song. But judging by the content of the song and the way it is generally perceived by the media it will not have any influence or strengthen the already movement of de-sexualization of women. Okay now it is just disrespectful; are you seriously comparing her to Gaga? No way. There is no ‘new Gaga’ and if there was I’m sure she could do a lot better and wouldn’t be a problematic trashy rapper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, rasclautmangos said: You actually read or listen to the lyrics? Im not "shaming" anyone. It's women degrading themselves for men. The song wasn't about getting pleasured or self pleasure. It was about pleasing MEN and getting paid for doing it. Spare me with that faux feminism shyt. People need to call it a fun, mindless song and go. Trying to make anything intellectual or empowering out of it is full of shyt. I feel bad for mothers raising daughters right now, especially those of color, when most of the popular songs right now about their private parts and how well they can pleasure men with them. If you think otherwise, it is what it is. I don’t see what’s wrong about wanting your sexual partner to enjoy your body. Isn’t that what sex is about. This aint the 60’s, women are allowed to be sexual with their men if they want to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMonster20 9,858 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Runway said: You’re just mad because Nicki Minaj will never be named WOTY. She had to settle for some made up award back in 2019. What a sad life I’m not a Barb so I couldn’t care less about her getting it. I didn’t even know about her settling for another award. All I’m saying is that Nicki deserves it much more than Cardi. I don’t know who you are referring to in the last sentence but I can assure you we’re both fine; Nicki just got her child, is a millionaire and is deemed the most iconic female rapper. I am doing well too. Also, who knows if she’s going to be WOTY some year? I wasn’t expecting a lot of the ones already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumours 45,521 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Come through Dolly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, LittleMonster20 said: I’m not a Barb so I couldn’t care less about her getting it Sure joanne 2 minutes ago, LittleMonster20 said: All I’m saying is that Nicki deserves it much more than Cardi. You don’t get awards for bailing pedophiles out of jail 3 minutes ago, LittleMonster20 said: Nicki just got her child, is a millionaire and is deemed the most iconic female rapper. Having a child with a rapist and murderer, sis really hit the jackpot there 4 minutes ago, LittleMonster20 said: deemed the most iconic female rapper By her fans ? Maybe. In the real world she is reliant on remixes for clout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMonster20 9,858 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Runway said: Sure joanne You don’t get awards for bailing pedophiles out of jail Having a child with a rapist and murderer, sis really hit the jackpot there By her fans ? Maybe. In the real world she is reliant on remixes for clout I’m not a Barb; I just like her songs and respect her position in female rap. You don’t get them for for drugging, raping and robbing men either. Can’t really defend this but let’s leave her child and family out of this. Everywhere; literally every IG feed, every rap channel, every single time a female rappers is mentioned: Nicki Minaj IS the queen of rap. Not a Barb, not delusional and even if I hated her (which there is plenty of reason for) I would have to admit this. I don’t get all this hostility and your hard-on for Cardi because it’s frankly pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, LittleMonster20 said: You don’t get them for for drugging, raping and robbing men either. She never raped them lmao. The fake **** to discredit a hard working woman is too much ahdgshha. If she hadn’t “drugged” them they would have beat the **** out of her and raped her, that’s the life of a street girl, you don’t get to judge her for looking after herself 6 minutes ago, LittleMonster20 said: don’t get all this hostility and your hard-on for Cardi because it’s frankly pathetic. it’s not a hard on, i just find her extremely hard working and she actually acts in consequence of her words. She is the most successful woman in the industry for a reason that transcends charts. Her cultural impact almost rivals Gaga’s when she started out and the proof is in her haters. You either love her or hate her, no in between. 6 minutes ago, LittleMonster20 said: Nicki Minaj IS the queen of rap just because you repeat it doesn’t make it true. She is not in anyone’s mind nor is she the topic of any current cultural discussion, Cardi B is though. 6 minutes ago, LittleMonster20 said: Can’t really defend this but let’s leave her child and family out of this. Her family is made up of sex offenders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas P 18,479 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Honestly, love to see Cardi win it, but I think Meg kinda deserved this year. I think she was THE woman of the year, more than anyone else tbh. I’m a simple guy to please, if you like Melodrama, we chill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMonster20 9,858 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, Runway said: She never raped them lmao. The fake **** to discredit a hard working woman is too much ahdgshha. If she hadn’t “drugged” them they would have beat the **** out of her and raped her, that’s the life of a street girl, you don’t get to judge her for looking after herself it’s not a hard on, i just find her extremely hard working and she actually acts in consequence of her words. She is the most successful woman in the industry for a reason that transcends charts. Her cultural impact almost rivals Gaga’s when she started out and the proof is in her haters. You either love her or hate her, no in between. just because you repeat it doesn’t make it true. She is not in anyone’s mind nor is she the topic of any current cultural discussion, Cardi B is though. Her family is made up of sex offenders Regardless of her having to support herself drugging and robbing people isn’t okay! WTF are you really trying to justify it?! If she was so desperate she could have just gotten another job. (I must say it IS messed up that people are saying she raped them; I apologize for bringing that up since it’s serious) This is subjective. One thing though, she’s in NO way similar to Gaga. Nicki is EVERYWHERE. You can’t escape her on social media. She has a lot of features and she is always proclaimed the Queen of Rap. I know that the title in itself is subjective but I barely see Cardi getting proclaimed the Queen of anything. Nicki is just generally seen as the best and most influential female rapper. I’m aware and that’s horrible. I’M NOT A BARB. There are moments when Nicki disgusts me. All I’m saying is that what she did for female rap is undeniable plus she has the talent so I think she deserves it more than Cardi. At the end of the day, I don’t stan either of them. I just think Nicki is more deserving and think Cardi is a scummy person and is untalented. There are so many other great female rappers and musicians that deserves this so much more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nath4gaga 1,274 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Cardi b has done nothing this year. Y'all can rot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasclautmangos 2,746 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 34 minutes ago, Runway said: I don’t see what’s wrong about wanting your sexual partner to enjoy your body. Isn’t that what sex is about. This aint the 60’s, women are allowed to be sexual with their men if they want to Nothing wrong with it. Just don't understand why people want to make it into something it's not. Not with those lyrics. It's a song about using your p*ssy. Nothing more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhHenny2020 2,822 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, Thomas P said: Honestly, love to see Cardi win it, but I think Meg kinda deserved this year. I think she was THE woman of the year, more than anyone else tbh. Meghan Trainor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 32,786 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, nath4gaga said: Cardi b has done nothing this year. Y'all can rot. The bitterness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilMonst3r 5,544 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Cant wait to see if she mentions gaga in her speech. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAsUnic0rn 2,100 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 hour ago, LittleMonster20 said: Okay now it is just disrespectful; are you seriously comparing her to Gaga? No way. There is no ‘new Gaga’ and if there was I’m sure she could do a lot better and wouldn’t be a problematic trashy rapper. Did you just call me saying Cardi reminds ME of early Gaga disrespectful? Just to go on and belittle Cardi as a problematic trashy rapper? Do I have to remind you that Gaga was seen as a problematic trashy attention seeking pop singer by many the first YEARS of her career? Hell, Gaga played off the fact people think of her that way by being deliberately trashy. You made your point very clear. I’ll just let that hypocrisy sink in, and leave it at that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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