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Gagaloo911

The talking up of Biden barely pulling this off as somehow this huge success, yet no mention of these moderate, centrist Democrats who LOST up and down the ballot, costing the Democrats members in the House that shouldn't have even been play, and preventing them taking the Senate.

This election was a rejection of the Democratic Party leadership. I mean it lost to a tool like Susan Collins and corrupt criminal like John Cornyn. That's embarassing.

And if your takeaway is that this was a success and the strategy to use going forward, we can just goodbye to the Democrats' chances of ever taking the Senate again, as well as their House majority in 2022. :fail:

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BornAsUnic0rn
12 minutes ago, Sloansabbith said:

When I say it doesn’t matter I’m proving your point - People who voted for a $15 minimum wage voted for Trump. So clearly they will vote for a President that doesn’t represent the policies they want. 

Career politicians fail in both parties. It’s how we got Trump. But Democrats won’t revive the party or start winning with an AOC like figure either. 

Also can we start being honest here? Biden is taking PA, NV and maybe even Georgia and likely AZ. Along with taking back the upper Midwest from Trump. That is not a small margin FFS. 

Trump is packing his bags due to Black voters coming out for Biden. Because guess what, they don’t want people like Bernie. Neither do the Latino voters, so going further left won’t get them on board. 

I really feel like young far lefties are now sad they can’t complain about Trump anymore so Biden not doing good enough in their eyes is their new thing to cuddle up to. 
 

 

What they should focus on in the future to win are probably people like Buttigieg, he handles Fox news extremely well, ofc depending on Harris‘ job as a vice president since she could really shine with the vice-presidency.

 

I feel like these two were the most notable coming out of this.

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caulixtla

OK, here’s the deal with GA. Technically, all precincts have been counted for Clayton county but mail-in ballots are still being counted. We don’t know how many are left.

Right now, we need around 93,000 for Biden in Clayton county to win GA. The number is 91,072 right now. Here’s the source: https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/GA/Clayton/105401/web.264614/#/summary?v=269526%2F

We only need 1,267 more to beat Trump. Come on, Clayton, you have more votes to count. Keep on counting!

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Chromatican
5 minutes ago, OG Gaga Stan said:

Bernie massively outperformed Biden with Hispanic and Latino voters in the primary. What in the world are you talking about? 

This is why the left gets so angry with the center. You get exactly what you want, over and over and over again, and you fail, over and over and over again, and the answer is ALWAYS to move further to the right. Always. You never learn anything, you constantly insult and belittle and disenfranchise the left, and lose, or massively underperform, and then you blame the left anyway. The last massively popular president the Dems had, Obama, ran as an unabashed progressive in his campaign. You tried exactly what you're claiming now ever since, and it's resulted in absolute catastrophe. 

Biden is barely eeking out a win against one of the most worst, most unpopular presidents of all time. Someone who just killed 250,000 people with a pandemic that's continuing to explode all over the country. After we were told that he was the only one we could vote for in the primary because he was the only way we could guarantee a "blue wave" and capture the Senate, despite the fact that that meant giving up on every policy we actually wanted and he ultimately proved to be poison for down-ballot races. When the Democrats lost 10 seats in the House and aren't going to take the Senate like they hoped to, even after blowing hundreds of millions of dollars on races that went nowhere, all but guaranteeing that absolutely nothing will be accomplished over the next four years. 

I have no idea why I let myself get invested in these back-and-forths with people who have no interest hearing anything other than standard, conventional wisdom, even when it's just failed spectacularly right in front of them. It's like talking to a brick wall.

I am so tired of arguing with Center Dems.

 

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6 minutes ago, BornAsUnic0rn said:

What they should focus on in the future to win are probably people like Buttigieg, he handles Fox news extremely well, ofc depending on Harris‘ job as a vice president since she could really shine with the vice-presidency.

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..............This broke me. See you all tomorrow.

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12 minutes ago, caulixtla said:

Clayton county was last. People must had overestimated the number of votes left to count. :(

If we can find 2,000 votes anywhere in GA, Trump will lose it, but right now Trump has the edge in GA. It’s recount land, but he is ahead.

Edit: People are claiming it’s off

 

 

GOODNESS this election... :giveup:

REALLY HOPE this means Biden's able to get more votes in GA and win, even if it's a recount-warranting lead. We can do this.

 

I also NEED NV and PA to come through in the meantime.

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JusKeepBreathin
10 minutes ago, OG Gaga Stan said:

Bernie massively outperformed Biden with Hispanic and Latino voters in the primary. What in the world are you talking about? 

This is why the left gets so angry with the center. You get exactly what you want, over and over and over again, and you fail, over and over and over again, and the answer is ALWAYS to move further to the right. Always. You never learn anything, you constantly insult and belittle and disenfranchise the left, and lose, or massively underperform, and then you blame the left anyway. The last massively popular president the Dems had, Obama, ran as an unabashed progressive in his campaign. You tried exactly what you're claiming now ever since, and it's resulted in absolute catastrophe. 

Biden is barely eeking out a win against one of the most worst, most unpopular presidents of all time. Someone who just killed 250,000 people with a pandemic that's continuing to explode all over the country. After we were told that he was the only one we could vote for in the primary because he was the only way we could guarantee a "blue wave" and capture the Senate, despite the fact that that meant giving up on every policy we actually wanted and he ultimately proved to be poison for down-ballot races. When the Democrats lost 10 seats in the House and aren't going to take the Senate like they hoped to, even after blowing hundreds of millions of dollars on races that went nowhere, all but guaranteeing that absolutely nothing will be accomplished over the next four years. 

I have no idea why I let myself get invested in these back-and-forths with people who have no interest hearing anything other than standard, conventional wisdom, even when it's just failed spectacularly right in front of them. It's like talking to a brick wall.

He was probably talking about Latino votes in Florida where Biden massively outperformed Bernie with Latino votes. Florida's Latino majority is different from the rest of the country. Especially South Florida. 

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr.
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Chromatican
7 minutes ago, Justin Drew Bieber said:

If you wanna have a good laugh at my trump supporting friend this is what she said earlier :ally: she’s melting down so much

“I wish that covid wouldn't have happened, Our country would be in amazing standing. Everything is just now getting back on track but it's sad that all of this had to happen and during election year.

Democrats got really lucky exploiting a pandemic and providing no solutions of how to conquer it. Just sit back and watch everyone else do the work then take credit for it later.”

This is what people don't understand. It took a literal pandemic, and Trump's failed handling of it to get a milquetoast Center Dem into the White House. The strategy is a fail.

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Chromatican
4 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

He was probably talking about Latino votes in Florida where Biden massively outperformed Bernie with Latino votes. Florida's Latino majority is different from the rest of the country. Especially South Florida. 

Conservative Cubans in South Florida are never a sure thing for the Democratic Party though. :oops:

Mexican-Americans and other Latinos in Nevada supported Bernie by huge margins.

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Plastic Flower
1 hour ago, Jill said:

A left-wing president managed to be elected, so they're at most a big minority I'd say. It may seem scary rn, because of Latin America's very conservative past, but I think the left will definitely begin to bloom there, after conservatives begin to die or get voted out of office. I sincerely think far-right nuts like Bolsonaro are their last hurrah.

The problem is... people ignore that he is a left-wing president :fatcat: they voted for him because last time PRI (right-wing) won and they did absolutely NOTHING. People were angry and wanted PRI and PAN out, so they voted for the third possible option. 

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