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PartySick
1 minute ago, Chromatican said:

The world where AOC will have more influence as president is the world we live in now. How would a presidential run even ruin her career anyway?

Idk about ruin her career but I've also thought it's a better idea to pack the legislative branch with progressive candidates so they can write and pass progressive laws. It seems more important than trying to go for one progressive president imo.

Not that we can't do both :gayhat:

But I'd be happy with more Bernie's and AOC's in congress and a Democrat in the White House.

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Just now, Chromatican said:

If you think Kamala can win the presidency after her performance in the primaries... :madge:

Her perfomance in the primaries were her performance in the primaries. A potential 2024 run will happen after 4 years of presumably hard work, so, yes I think she could pull it off.

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PartySick
Just now, Contessa said:

I just finished my Stromboli any tea or are we still just waiting? :mark:

Waiting for the win to become official :fan:

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Contessa
Just now, PartySick said:

Waiting for the win to become official :fan:

Wait so we finally did it? :giveup:

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PartySick
Just now, Jill said:

Her perfomance in the primaries were her performance in the primaries. A potential 2024 run will happen after 4 years of presumably hard work, so, yes I think she could pull it off.

Idek who could be the Dem nominee in 2024 aside from her. Almost everyone that's run in 2020 and 2016 were known names.

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Chromatican
1 minute ago, Jill said:

Running for President at age 35, the minimum for running, is a political suicide. President is the office someone should strive for as a parting gift to their legacy, not as the starting one. Do you know how much influence she can have if she keeps doing what she's doing from the side? Much more than what she'd have in a possibly contested and very controversial election that could end up with her not having the Senate, like Biden, for example. She'd be much more useful in lower offices, with more direct contact with the people, first. This is a no brainer.

AOC is one of the youngest people ever elected to congress though. A presidency is a parting gift? I think not. Presidents don't have to just be old men. We just had our oldest president in history and he was an utter disaster.

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Jollibee
9 minutes ago, TheFame Monster said:

Damn Trump might not be able to flee to Russia and fondle Putin after all

He can run for presidency in Russia. :green:

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3 minutes ago, OG Gaga Stan said:

I can tell you right now that the left will never (and should never) roll over and let the party attempt to anoint another centrist nominee like Harris. Expect another intraparty fight in 2024, to say the least. 

I don't know if that many changes can be expected in such a short period of time tbh. I'm a socialist and I'm 100% on the idea of a progressive taking the lead but it doesn't sound realistic to do it during this very weak period of America's history. Kamala should run in 2024 and 2028/32 can be for either Kamala again or a real progressive. Let's remember we just got out of a nightmare so don't ask much from the Democrats.

edit: this doesn't mean that I wouldn't agree on a progressive runnin for 2024 (as long as it isn't AOC), just that I don't see it given the Democratic establishment being how it is.

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Gagaloo911
3 minutes ago, Jill said:

Kamala should (and likely will) be the candidate in 2024. I'd make a bet the Biden Administration is even preparing her to take over during the latter years so they can have a platform to run on. 

Disagree. Though they likely are planning to run her in 2024, I don't think she should.

It'll be 2016 and 2020 all over again running moderate, centrist Dems who run failing strategies :saladga:

Just look at all the centrist Democrats who failed MISERABLY all over the country and costing the Democrats seats in the House and likely their ability to take the Senate.

No thank you. Give me a new strategy not the same failed ones.

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PartySick
1 minute ago, Contessa said:

Wait so we finally did it? :giveup:

Biden may flip Georgia by tonight, Pennsylvania is 100% flipping, Nevada and Arizona are secured. Biden's won, we just need to wait for the counting to be totally done for them to officially call them :nick:

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TheFame Monster
Just now, Jollibee said:

He can run for presidency in Russia. :green:

I think they know he’s a joke there despite his relation to Putin 

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Chromatican
Just now, PartySick said:

Idek who could be the Dem nominee in 2024 aside from her. Almost everyone that's run in 2020 and 2016 were known names.

Andrew Yang is young, progressive and charismatic. :oops:

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LilyLark
10 minutes ago, OG Gaga Stan said:

This literally isn’t true.

Bernie was leading across all racial groups before SC, where Biden largely won because of Clyburn’s endorsement, and then after that, Biden was carried to victory with $200 million of free positive press and a torrential downpour of endorsements from politicians attempting to stop Bernie from winning the nomination. 

Bernie has already more than proven that he can inspire Black voters if the party doesn’t outright smear him. He’s literally more popular with Black woman than any other subgroup of people in the country.

Leftwing policies and politicians are broadly popular, period. This notion that Black voters won’t vote for a progressive in a general election is an old talking point pushed by the very same people that have been advocating for the same exact strategy that Biden tanked with this time around. We’re not doing this anymore. It’s time to move on.

There was literally one poll where he was leading with Black voters and that was because Bloomberg was splitting the support with Biden. I like Bernie, but let's not rewrite history here.

Anyway, peace. We both want a progressive president in the long run.

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