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PartySick
8 minutes ago, buzzkill said:

This moderated democrats talk again while trump is inciting riot :bear:

Is he supposed to get up there and be like "punch a red hat today xoxo, your next president" :laughga:

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5 minutes ago, M Monstre said:

I agree with you to some extent. I think this reasoning could've worked in 2016 (and it did work in 2016), but in 2020, I just don't think that's the case anymore.

"He represents an F U to career politicians and the establishment." — At first, yes, he did. That's largely why he won. People were/are tired of the establishment and they wanted change. But now, 4 years later, he is literally the epitome of the establishment. He wanted to "drain the swamp," but he just made it worse. If people still voted for him in 2020 because they thought he was "anti-establishment," then they're just objectively wrong.

"Making fun of them and calling stupid isn't the way to change their minds and show them a different past to a world of new ideas." — But when you do try to show them new ideas and new perspectives, many of them just brush it off. This whole "we belong together" rhetoric is exactly what Joe Biden ran on, and he's going to barely win the election. And then if you have more progressive politicians like Bernie or AOC, they'll scream "SOCIALIST!" or "COMMUNIST!" every 10 seconds even though they really don't understand what that means. 

You can definitely have sympathy for voters. That's something that should be encouraged more, but sympathy can only go so far when you have 68+ million people actively voting for the candidate who's single handedly ruined so much about this country that already was far from perfect to begin with. 


Yes that’s why I said the anti-establishment is all a lie. They were wrong then and they are wrong now. 

It’s not the majority of people though who won’t hear new ideas. Those are the very loud ones. I encourage everyone to talk to and make friends with people who they do not agree with. It will open your eyes. 

I also do not subscribe to this rhetoric that Biden will “barely” win.

He’s going to take AZ and potentially flip GA. He won back the midwest where Hillary lost. 

Biden’s popular vote numbers are INSANE. 

We cannot have it both ways. We can’t say the large number of Trump voters is emblematic of where the country is at and out of the same mouth say that what Joe Biden has done here is meaningless.

To be clear - this isn’t about sympathy or even about empathy. I’m a coastal elite who pretty much loathes the middle of the country. I am not a socialist and I think Bernie and AOC are nuts. This is all about understanding your opponent and how Trump came to be. Saying it’s “stupidity and racism” is the lazy way out. 

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caulixtla

OK, an updated map and explanation below:

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NV looks bad for Trump, no path for him to catch up:

AZ also looks bad for Trump, since subsequent drops of vote counts should be less favorable to Trump than what we saw last night:

Also, AZ is easier to poll than FL or PA/WI/MI, and polled +2.5 Biden, which is a little lower than the +3 Biden we’re seeing right now.

PA looks bad for Trump:

Finally, I’m calling GA blue, which is a bit of a stretch, but it’s based on the fact I lived there and this:

* Trump is 13,000 ahead right now in GA

* We have 50,000 votes left to count

* We only need the remaining votes to be 66% Biden for us to get it.

Cobb county — I use to live right next to that county and visited it frequently — has a lot of votes left, and is a blue county right now (not surprising, based on the friends I had when I lived around there). The overall Cobb county votes aren’t quite blue enough to give it to Biden with what we have left, but this is probably the same deal as what we have seen with the Rust Belt: What’s left is a lot more blue than what we have counted so far.

Even more blue Douglas county also has votes left, but not as many as Cobb county.

Chatham county also has a lot of votes left to count, and it’s like Cobb county: The overall vote there isn’t quite blue enough, but the missing mail-in ballots should be blue enough to give it to Biden.

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ToxicHot
5 minutes ago, Jill said:

What? :bear:

Something about Trump inciting riots when he hasn’t even officially lost yet? :bear: Drastic much?? :bear:

I shared a recent Biden tweet and I just responded to that user’s reply. 

dOnT sAd ReAcT mE 2 bE sHaDy i WiLL RePoRt U!!1!
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NichuuB

Guys, this is not a meme. That actually is Bolsonaro CRYING because of the american elections current results. My god I'm so embarassed that he is our president.:selena:

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2 minutes ago, NicoB said:

Guys, this is not a meme. That actually is Bolsonaro CRYING because of the american elections current results. My god I'm so embarassed that he is our president.:selena:

We LOVE to see it (the crying part of it all :selena: )

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6 minutes ago, ToxicHot said:

Something about Trump inciting riots when he hasn’t even officially lost yet? :bear: Drastic much?? :bear:

I shared a recent Biden tweet and I just responded to that user’s reply. 

Wait so why the "sore loser" thing? (edit: I just got it. I'm stupid) I don't think Biden should be inciting riots but I've said since day one that he's shaping up to be excessively moderate and I don't know if that's the best thing to do right now.

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NichuuB
Just now, Gagaloo911 said:

We LOVE to see it (the crying part of it all :selena: )

Bozo heading to US to comfort Trump when he loses:sis:

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7 minutes ago, NicoB said:

Guys, this is not a meme. That actually is Bolsonaro CRYING because of the american elections current results. My god I'm so embarassed that he is our president.:selena:

Cry more you lying little bitch

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4 minutes ago, NicoB said:

Guys, this is not a meme. That actually is Bolsonaro CRYING because of the american elections current results. My god I'm so embarassed that he is our president.:selena:

Dafuq? 

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8 minutes ago, NicoB said:

Guys, this is not a meme. That actually is Bolsonaro CRYING because of the american elections current results. My god I'm so embarassed that he is our president.:selena:

The "saddest" part is that Trump doesn't give a flying **** about him and ignores him in every event they are together :air: 

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2 minutes ago, Red said:

The "saddest" part is that Trump doesn't give a flying **** about him and ignores him in every event they are together :air: 

Doesn't Trump ignore everybody who doesn't look like Putin, Trump himself, or Ivanka tho?

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NichuuB
1 minute ago, Red said:

The "saddest" part is that Trump doesn't give a flying **** about him and ignores him in every event they are together :air: 

I remember when he said to trump "Trump, I love you!", and trump looked at him like "The f*ck?", turned backs to him and went away without even giving a ****:ladyhaha:

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