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Why AP called AZ and others haven't

NY Times:

The Associated Press and Fox News have called Arizona for Joe Biden. The New York Times has not.

In most races, The Times automatically accepts the race calls made by The A.P. But in the most important races, we independently evaluate whether to accept an A.P. call, based on our own analysis.

The main reason we have not yet accepted the call in Arizona? We do not believe there’s solid enough data on the votes that remain to be counted after Election Day. The data we do have suggests that President Trump could fare well. Mr. Biden was and is still favored in our view. But on Tuesday night and afterward, there was no way to preclude, based on hard evidence, the possibility that Mr. Trump could win. That’s what a race call means to us.

As of 1:30 p.m. Eastern time Thursday, CNN, NBC News, ABC News, CBS News, DecisionDesk HQ and Reuters had not called Arizona

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/05/upshot/arizona-election-call.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

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Gagaloo911
3 minutes ago, ConnorFilm said:

The election result is all but called at this point. 

 

But I thought I read that the later mail-in ballots, meaning those on Election Day and right around then, broke more for Trump in AZ specifically, (like 54% or something) so that would mean Biden wouldn't be winning them decisively; hence, why it's so close and some haven't called it? :oprah:

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Just now, Gagaloo911 said:

But I thought I read that the later mail-in ballots, meaning those on Election Day and right around then, broke more for Trump in AZ specifically, (like 54% or something) so that would mean Biden wouldn't be winning them decisively; hence, why it's so close and some haven't called it? :oprah:

Biden has AZ. Just ask @Jill:billie:

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Sloansabbith

No Middle America is not stupid. What we have is a generational problem that trickled down from Reagan. Ronald Reagan ignited the socially conservative religious people who felt left behind by blue collar democrats and Rockefeller republicans. They have never gone away and while it’s getting better, they have passed down their ideas to their children. They are one issue voters (abortion) and will vote for Satan himself if there were to be an “R” next to his name. 

So Trump comes in and automatically gets those votes, but he also capitalizes on the working class midwesterners who loved Barack Obama but ultimately felt left behind by him and that he didn’t keep his promises.

Trump also had an easy opponent in Hillary Clinton who has been hated by women of a certain age since 1992.

It’s easy to just write off Trump supporters as horrible racist people, and many of them are, but it’s a lot more nuanced than that. He represents an F U to career politicians and the establishment. But it’s all a lie. It’s kind of like a bunch of posers discovering the Ramone’s greatest hits and thinking they are now part of punk rock. 

As the culture shifts in America and smaller big cities become more cosmopolitan and interesting, you will see less and less of this.

It’s happening in Texas, AZ and Georgia.

The biggest problem with Middle Americans isn’t that they think abortion is murder or that they eat at the Olive Garden for a big night out. Or even how the vote. It’s that they don’t believe there is anything more attainable outside of that. Making fun of them and calling them stupid isn’t the way to change their minds and show them a different path to a world of new ideas.  

 

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JudasJustDance

Are we getting Georgia results today? 
 

I know we’re probably getting Nevada’s and Pennsylvania’s tomorrow  

 

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Gagaism

I’m so scared about this Nevada time lack, something sounds off for me. I just hope to some states turning blue and Biden to be declared the winner ASAP 

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Gagaloo911

The latest popular vote tallies have Trump now down to 47.9% and Biden 50.4%.

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3 minutes ago, JudasJustDance said:

Are we getting Georgia results today? 
 

I know we’re probably getting Nevada’s and Pennsylvania’s tomorrow  

 

PA expects to finish their counting today, so does GA

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REALITY
52 minutes ago, Snorlax said:

Under a normal presidency this would be no issue, but Trump will stop at nothing to not lose this race and who knows what kind of scheisse he might pull if votes are still being counted over the next few days

Sure, but there's also no point in refreshing this thread every other minute or refreshing the Google results every other minute when we know that it's going to take a couple of days for things to get sorted out. 

People should just calm down a little and not get too anxious about this.

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12 minutes ago, JudasJustDance said:

Are we getting Georgia results today? 
 

I know we’re probably getting Nevada’s and Pennsylvania’s tomorrow  

 

NV and PA: next batch released Friday

GA and AZ: another batch of counts released tonight

 

NY Times :

Follow the Last Remaining States

Updated Thursday 1:50 p.m. E.T. Six states that will decide the next president remained uncalled. Here’s where things stand, when you can expect final results:

Alaska: May well be the last state to be called. Officials won’t begin counting mail ballots, or early in-person ballots cast after Oct. 29, for another week.

Arizona: Biden leads Trump, who would need about 60 percent of the remaining vote to win the state. More results expected to be released tonight.

Georgia: Trump leads Biden. Election officials said that processing absentee ballots would continue throughout the day and into the evening if necessary.

Nevada: Biden leads Trump. The registrar in Clark County (Las Vegas) said Thursday that the county would release the next batch of votes before 1 p.m. E.T. on Friday.

North Carolina: Trump leads Biden, with most ballots already counted. Biden would need to win about two-thirds of the remainder to pull ahead. Will accept mail-in ballots that arrive through Nov. 12.

Pennsylvania: Trump leads Biden. Most of the votes yet to be counted are in counties where Biden is ahead. Officials expect to release more votes this morning and to have most votes counted by Friday.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/04/us/elections/paths-to-victory-biden-trump.html?action=click&pgtype=Article&state=default&module=styln-elections-2020&region=TOP_BANNER&context=storyline_menu_recirc

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AVeryGagaHolyDick
2 minutes ago, JennyWayne said:

What will be released first? R9 or Nevada's results?

At this point, LG7 

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Just now, Epione said:

Is it still possible to get Georgia? I see 99% votes are counted. :bear:

Yes. It’ll come to a few thousand votes more than likely. 

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