I Guess We'll Never Know

[warhol killah 8,671]

I was assuming that if the tour is still going to happen, she will continue the tribe story on the tour, just like they did with the Born This Way mv storyline and its tour. Maybe that's one of the reason why the pre-pandemic scheduled tour was early on?

[Quartz 12,524]

Just now, Warhol Killer said:

I was assuming that if the tour is still going to happen, she will continue the tribe story on the tour, just like they did with the Born This Way mv storyline and its tour. Maybe that's one of the reason why the pre-pandemic scheduled tour was early on?

That actually sounds like a good plan! Damn it we wont get the tour with how things are going though. You think we'll tackle the tribes in a pay per view concert instead?

[ALGAYDO 32,427]

Gaga has a bad habit of hyping up stuff that never comes to fruition. And I feel like a lot of it comes from her just being super excited and not being able to keep her mouth shut about stuff. Which I get. I really do. But it’s also annoying af because, well, a lot of stuff doesn’t happen. It kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but hey, I absolutely adore this woman so I’ll just turn a blind eye lol 

[Quartz 12,524]

Just now, ALGAYDO said:

Gaga has a bad habit of hyping up stuff that never comes to fruition. And I feel like a lot of it comes from her just being super excited and not being able to keep her mouth shut about stuff. Which I get. I really do. But it’s also annoying af because, well, a lot of stuff doesn’t happen. It kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but hey, I absolutely adore this woman so I’ll just turn a blind eye lol 

But i have a special feeling that when she hypes us, it comes from the fact that there was a plan lol
Like all her promises in BTW and AP, I know that all of those were planned and were at least in the beginning phases of development. The problem is, like you said, concretizing them for the fans to enjoy. Drives me crazy sometimes honestly lol

[tomsches 17,392]

I feel like that whole tribe concept was abandoned a few days after the video dropped.

[yes and 4,884]

Monsters will never stop complain  
Due to the original schedule, the era would've ended 2.5 months ago 

[Quartz 12,524]

Just now, Sour Candy said:

Monsters will never stop complain  
Due to the original schedule, the era would've ended 2.5 months ago 

Where did I complain 

[ALGAYDO 32,427]

4 minutes ago, Quartz said:

But i have a special feeling that when she hypes us, it comes from the fact that there was a plan lol
Like all her promises in BTW and AP, I know that all of those were planned and were at least in the beginning phases of development. The problem is, like you said, concretizing them for the fans to enjoy. Drives me crazy sometimes honestly lol

Omg yes. Like I’m sure most of her “betrayals” (which is honestly so cringe and toxic af, like wtf are these “fans” thinking when they say shít like that?? 💀) were all already in the process of being finalized. Like, for example, I’m almost 100% certain the Mariachi version of Americano exists, but never got the green light to be released. I just wish she never said there was such a version so I wouldn’t be yearning for it. Same with so many things she’s mentioned (ARTPOP act II, ARTPOP being a visual album, etc etc etc). 
 

at the very least, the silver lining of all of this is that we know she is extremely passionate about her work. Which is all I could ask of her, because I just love her as an artist and as a human in general. I just want her to learn how to keep quiet sometimes haha 

[Quartz 12,524]

Just now, ALGAYDO said:

Omg yes. Like I’m sure most of her “betrayals” (which is honestly so cringe and toxic af, like wtf are these “fans” thinking when they say shít like that?? 💀) were all already in the process of being finalized. Like, for example, I’m almost 100% certain the Mariachi version of Americano exists, but never got the green light to be released. I just wish she never said there was such a version so I wouldn’t be yearning for it. Same with so many things she’s mentioned (ARTPOP act II, ARTPOP being a visual album, etc etc etc). 
 

at the very least, the silver lining of all of this is that we know she is extremely passionate about her work. Which is all I could ask of her, because I just love her as an artist and as a human in general. I just want her to learn how to keep quiet sometimes haha 

I'm on the fence about this lmao, like yes, I would like her to just stay quiet so that i won't expect much. but on the other hand, a part of me wants to know EVERYTHING even scrapped plans. I guess the bottom line is to go in with stanning without expectations 

[warhol killah 8,671]

30 minutes ago, Quartz said:

That actually sounds like a good plan! Damn it we wont get the tour with how things are going though. You think we'll tackle the tribes in a pay per view concert instead?

I would love to see it. Although, there might be a big chance that they already altered or changed the tour storyline. Maybe in other elements, like if there are interludes for the tour, they might put in little pieces from the tribes? I always thought the dancers during her VMAs performance are dressed up like different tribes. 911 had Freedom Fighters (I guess, since they were wearing blue), Rain On Me obviously had the purple tribe for Ariana and the Kindness Punks for Gaga, then Stupid Love had the blue and pink tribe with the yellow and black tribes, kind of like in the music video.

There might be a chance that they didn't drop the concept FULLY , but I'm pretty sure it was mostly around for Stupid Love.

I always imagined the tour like this:

Spoiler

ACT I: INTRO + CHROMATICA I

// After falling into the world of Chromatica, she wonders and tries to find freedom.

1. Alice

2. Scheiße (first verse + chorus + bridge + chorus breakdown as outro) 

// She finds freedom through fame, and meets the different hauses: Cyber Kinds, Eco Warriors, and Kindness Punks.

3. Free Woman

INTERLUDE

// The different hauses celebrate and dance, as she had already "found" her "freedom".

4. Stupid Love

5. Just Dance/Poker Face/Applause (medley)

// In the end of all the celebration, she still does not feel right, and realizes she is still not free.

6. Fun Tonight 

BAND OUTRO

// She meets the other hauses: Junkyard Scavengers, and Government Officials. Here she finds the dark meaning in fame and public image.

7. Paparazzi (acoustic first verse  + studio chorus)

// They try to change her to a more "likeable" Gaga, to satisfy the masses with her new found fame. She rages as Aura starts.

8. Plastic Doll/Aura (medley)

ACT II: INTERLUDE + CHROMATICA II (with Dance In The Dark elements)

// She finds out the darker elements to fame: love, sex, trauma, and pain, after being "fixed" by the hauses.

9. 911 (with elements of Government Hooker)

10. Telephone/LoveGame (medley)

11. Sour Candy

12. Enigma/Replay (medley - with band outro)

// She meets a new haus, the Freedom Fighters, and tell her the only way to heal herself is through music.

ACT III: INTERLUDE + CHROMATICA III

// The cure through music is introduced by a new haus, the Spiritual Ones. They heal her, and fix her again.

13. Sine From Above (with extended band outro)

14. 1000 Doves/Million Reasons (acoustic medley)

FAN INTERACTION + SPEECH

15. The Edge Of Glory (acoustic first verse - chorus + studio end bridge - last chorus)

16. Marry The Night (first verse + chorus + bridge + chorus breakdown as outro)

// After being healed, she gathers the different tribes, and tells the only way to find freedom, is within herself. 

ACT IV: BAND OUTRO + INTERLUDE (with Born This Way elements)

17. Born This Way (first verse + chorus + bridge + last chorus)

18. Bad Romance (first verse + chorus + bridge + last chorus)

// She accepts all her failures, her insecurities, and celebrates her survival on heartbreak.

19. Rain On Me

OUTRO INTERLUDE

// The camera pans out to all of them dancing happily, as the celebration is real this time.

ENCORE

// We see the different tribes dancing all together, as the dry land suddenly grew trees because of the "rain". They dance in Babylon.

20. Babylon

 

[Luc 4,775]

1 hour ago, Quartz said:

That 18 month planning period makes me believe otherwise tho. Like, i think they were planning weekly things that would promote her and Chromatica to the point of overexposure. 

I was doubtful of gaga's eras too since BTW BUT we did just get ASIB, a perfect era. Soooo, i guess i just feel bad that the plans weren't followed as the material for Chromatica slayage is right there

I see that, but overpromising is something very common for Gaga. We didn't see much promo in the first weeks of Stupid Love when it was still possible, Chromatica didn't have lot of songs obviously made for radio (like SL and ROM are), and there would've been a world tour in summer which would have required a month and a half of full-time rehearsing beforehand. Hence my skepticism.

[Danny Milk 1,729]

Pretty sure she'll use the tribes for the tour

[Quartz 12,524]

Just now, Luc said:

I see that, but overpromising is something very common for Gaga. We didn't see much promo in the first weeks of Stupid Love when it was still possible, Chromatica didn't have lot of songs obviously made for radio (like SL and ROM are), and there would've been a world tour in summer which would have required a month and a half of full-time rehearsing beforehand. Hence my skepticism.

I think the reason we didn't see much before SL release was because they were planning on something radical after. I dunno, just the feeling i get. 

[Quartz 12,524]

Just now, Danny Milk said:

Pretty sure she'll use the tribes for the tour

hopefully she'll use the tribes for the tour!

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hopefully there's a tour! 

[NewUsername 11,375]

All of the things listed can still come though and the tour is still planned.