Battle of the cultural aproppiation: pop girls edition

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2 minutes ago, Cookie Tookie said:

On topic: I live for all of these looks

I agree! Well lets be honest. If they borrow all these looks from other cultures is because they want to look dope and hot af 

[derpmonster 22,412]

Add Katy's whole imitation of Japanese culture during Prism to the list

And remove Gaga. There was nothing appropriated in 911.

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Just now, derpmonster said:

Add Katy's whole imitation of Japanese culture during Prism to the list

And remove Gaga. There was nothing appropriated in 911.

Katy have cultural permission. She will not be added to the list.

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Just now, Dulo Peep said:

Katy have cultural permission. She will not be added to the list.

From whom?

And by the same standard so does Gaga. The director of the video is Indian and the cast is incredibly diverse.

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Just now, derpmonster said:

From whom?

And by the same standard so does Gaga. The director of the video is Indian and the cast is incredibly diverse.

I am joking lol but wich japanese? Prism was in the jungle then in egypt? So egypt maybe? 

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2 minutes ago, Dulo Peep said:

I am joking lol but wich japanese? Prism was in the jungle then in egypt? So egypt maybe? 

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Just now, derpmonster said:

But that is a performance not a video or an era. 

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16 minutes ago, Dulo Peep said:

Any insight in why not her? Instead of just an empty comment? 

First of all, Christina has latin roots and she even said in an interview that she didn't feel "latina enough" due to the fact that she is a natural blonde and has a lighter skin tone, that's why she dyed her hair black and had a tan (which was an obvious spray tan). She wasn't "trying" to be black or abuse any cultural motives, she just changed her "bubblegum-pop" persona into a more mature Christina, and her music got more RnB because her "soul" voice is more suited for that type of music, and she wanted to reach a more mature audience. Also that type of music was really popular at that time (50 Cent, Eminem, Missy Elliot..) Not cultural appropriation imho.

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Just now, Dulo Peep said:

But that is a performance not a video or an era. 

That makes it even more cringey that she would put on this whole Japanese theme for just a performance and then not even follow through with it...

Also, it's very arbitrary to consider videos but not performances.

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1 minute ago, derpmonster said:

That makes it even more cringey that she would put on this whole Japanese theme for just a performance and then not even follow through with it...

Also, it's very arbitrary to consider videos but not performances.

Well all the options are just videos or entire eras. You cant really profit or benefit from a single performance, it requieres more than that. Honestly i added  Gaga only because of that post of that user asking her to donate the earnings of 911 so i thought it was aafair discussion.

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59 minutes ago, Dulo Peep said:

Can we have a respectful discussion about how cringy these pop moments were? 

911 MV is cringy? Lol.

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7 minutes ago, papergangstas said:

First of all, Christina has latin roots and she even said in an interview that she didn't feel "latina enough" due to the fact that she is a natural blonde and has a lighter skin tone, that's why she dyed her hair black and and had a tan (which was an obvious spray tan). She wasn't "trying" to be black or abuse any cultural motives, she just changed her "bubblegum-pop" persona into a more mature Christina, and her music got more RnB because her "soul" voice is more suited for that type of music. Not cultural appropriation imho.

I am reading that her father is Puerto Rican right? Thats not the imagery i see in stripped / hold us dow. She is in the bronx surrounded by poc with full woman of color look. Not in a latin, puerto rican or even mix neighborhood. 

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1 minute ago, Daylight Jokers said:

911 MV is cringy? Lol.

911 is now removed. 

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1 minute ago, Dulo Peep said:

I am reading that her father is Puerto Rican right? Thats not the imagery i see in stripped / hold us dow. She is in the bronx surrounded by poc with full look. Not in a latin, puerto rican neighborhood.

that's correct. for the music video itself, she used women (and men) of all colors. Black, Hispanic and caucasian. Due to the fact it features lil kim, it wouldn't make sense singing a song about female empowerement in a "latin, puerto rican" neighbourhood, when lil kim isn't hispanic, and christina actually did grow up in New York. When talking about the album Stripped itself, I can't see any "cultural appropriaton" in the songs she's singing (which vary from rnb to rock to latin-pop), nor in her other music videos. She just changed her physical image drastically, which stood out.

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5 minutes ago, papergangstas said:

that's correct. for the music video itself, she used women (and men) of all colors. Black, Hispanic and caucasian. Due to the fact it features lil kim, it wouldn't make sense singing a song about female empowerement in a "latin, puerto rican" neighbourhood, when lil kim isn't hispanic, and christina actually did grow up in New York. When talking about the album Stripped itself, I can't see any "cultural appropriaton" in the songs she's singing (which vary from rnb to rock to latin-pop), nor in her other music videos. She just changed her physical image drastically, which stood out.

Great! Plus that was long ago! If she did it today it would be more shocking because we are more aware.