RenegAde 18,435 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, ShayCristoforo said: It’s a valid question because of the imagery but I don’t think so. The surreal content plus the filmmaker’s influence would eliminate that problem Exactly my thought on the issue and the cultural references are portrayed by ethic people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Ecstasy2 2,202 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Man, some people really need to learn how to engage in discussions with people who are either asking questions to learn and/or who have different ideas and perspectives than them. It is literally having a conversation and exchanging ideas. Why do so many people find this threatening? “Delete this thread that person is not Gaga he is a hot blonde twink” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckInMyMind 5,930 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 and so it begins... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenPantee 51 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, hoeslay said: No ❤️ I don’t wanna sound cunty but you obviously don’t get what’s being referenced in the video. It’s an homage to Acid western surrealist films of the 1970’s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BLAiNE 1,064 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, hoeslay said: Cancel culture doesn't exist, sorry. Here's a useful thread that helped me think about it critically https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1288765465880231937?s=20 The term 'cancel culture' comes from entitlement - where a small group of people feel they are indeed entitled to dictate to the rest of the world how we should or shouldn't feel towards an artist, and when THEY are upset, we should all be upset, and therefore get rid of said artist. No artist has ever been 'challenged' on Twitter - they have been labeled and disregarded by a mob of keyboard warriors. Give me an actual conversation around a topic that anyone of these people have ever had with them and I will agree. So yes, correct, it is entitlement. And cancel culture does exist, as much as you may like to pretend it doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, GardenPantee said: I don’t wanna sound cunty but you obviously don’t get what’s being referenced in the video. It’s an homage to Acid western surrealist films of the 1970’s. Where did OP said it was cultural appropriation? And you do sound “cunty.” OP was asking a question. Also, just because that type of film was made in the past, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s okay if it’s bad cultural appropriation. The movie Cleopatra is a good example of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 God not this. The director is Indian. The video features people of all backgrounds. She's not wearing anything herself that's appropriative. Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Tookie 10,546 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, joannesrats said: Seriously? OP is asking a question. If you don’t like it, don’t read it. Don’t respond. Don’t call someone mentally ill because they aren’t trying to offend somebody. Who said I called anyone mentally ill? I’m saying this ideology of always targeting someone, looking for fault, criticizing art, attempting to construct a victim, is the problem. And I’m beginning to think it stems from people with psychological issues to begin with, and they project it onto society. If anyone has an issue with this alleged “cultural appropriation”, seems like you should take it up with the renowned, brilliant director who clearly had an artistic vision that he executed not only brilliantly, but appropriately and sensitively. People are just looking for any reason to be outraged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenPantee 51 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Just now, joannesrats said: Where did OP said it was cultural appropriation? And you do sound “cunty.” OP was asking a question. Also, just because that type of film was made in the past, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s okay if it’s bad cultural appropriation. The movie Cleopatra is a good example of this. *Face palm* this is like trying to explain Neuroscience to a 4 year old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Just now, Cookie Tookie said: Who said I called anyone mentally ill? I’m saying this ideology of always targeting someone, looking for fault, criticizing art, attempting to construct a victim, is the problem. And I’m beginning to think it stems from people with psychological issues to begin with, and they project it onto society. If anyone has an issue with this alleged “cultural appropriation”, seems like you should take it up with the renowned, brilliant director who clearly had an artistic vision that he executed not only brilliantly, but appropriately and sensitively. People are just looking for any reason to be outraged. You’re saying if someone is trying to be politically correct then they are mentally ill. And looking to criticize art is literally what you’re supposed to do with it? You’re supposed to think about it? Asking a question about cultural appropriation when Gaga is using cultural iconography of a group she doesn’t descend from is appropriate. Having these discussions is good and okay. It doesn’t mean someone is mentally ill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decodekid 27,485 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I don’t think so, i would see it more as appreciation rather than taking a benefit from it. I’m not really aware of what things could be considered “appropriation” here but if there’s any, I believe she’s just using them to express the vision that she had whereas mocking the culture shown in the video. Gaga wouldn’t do something for the sake of being offensive, or exploiting a culture. Long Live Gretchen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Modern Ecstasy2 said: Man, some people really need to learn how to engage in discussions with people who are either asking questions to learn and/or who have different ideas and perspectives than them. It is literally having a conversation and exchanging ideas. Why do so many people find this threatening? This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, GardenPantee said: *Face palm* this is like trying to explain Neuroscience to a 4 year old. No, it’s not. You aren’t understanding that the OP never said it was cultural appropriation. You haven’t tried to have a conversation with someone, you just keep shutting people down without offering ANY explanation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obobo 2,771 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 no because she didn’t claim it was her own. in the last bit u see the armenian film festival sign. if she claimed it as her own then it’s appropriation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katsuki Bakugo 9,788 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 27 minutes ago, hoeslay said: And the majority of the visuals are Armenian. One Indian director can't speak for a whole group of people. I don't know his full background and as an artist - he definitely should be able to express his interests and his story and impact of The Color of Pomegranates. Just trying to think on a more global scale which might not fully be my place but it's interesting to see what people think and how they personally relate to art. If you are desperate to see cultural appropriation go watch select Katy Perry videos and live performances. If All You Ever Do Is Look Down On People, You Won't Be Able To Recognize Your Own Weaknesses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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