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Jose P
5 minutes ago, derpmonster said:

Not true... S&M says hello :selena:

Well yeah but you can’t compare it to the meat dress, bleeding onstage, getting puked on onstage, borderline blasphemous imagery, etc. Rihanna always had a sexual image but it wasn’t as out there as Gaga’s which got even crazier as time went on, towards BTW and ARTPOP.

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17 minutes ago, CameltoeKween said:

They totally got tired of her, it's actually in her absence that her star power has grown. I remember with Rated R and with Anti the GP reacted similarly to how they received ARTPOP with Gaga.

She got a lot of crap from the GP during the Chr*s Br*wn era as well.

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Rihanna's Airplay to Sales ratio isn't good at all. The fact that What's my Name and Only girl only sold 3 million and 3.6 million with all that airplay is just horrible. And don't even get me started about her album sales 💀 I think it's largely due to the fact that she gets played on every single type of radio. Pop, Urban, Rythmic and HAC. Her single sales and album sales aren't really good tbh. The only reason why she's named the best selling digital artist is because of the amount of features and singles that she released. 

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25 minutes ago, Quartz said:

Don't come for me but I think a large portion of it is because she's black. Black pop girls are automatically cooler than white pop girls (Beyoncé, Megan, etc.).

Thats not true, the GP will call Beyonce who is one of the most talented artists/performers ever "overrated" but will be happily content with hearing the likes of Ed Sheeran and Taylor Swift on repeat with there same sounding generic c**p 24/7. Rihanna has a lot of good hits/a marketable image but there are times she gets bashed for her singing/performing skills.

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6 minutes ago, JOSHMATICA said:

Taylor Swift on repeat with there same sounding generic c**p 24/7.

I'd agree with Ed, but Taylor, no. 

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Just now, BLACKPINK said:

I'd agree with Ed, but Taylor, no. 

The singles i heard of Lover were terrible, i won't deny she has some good deep cuts but thats about it.

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there's a certain type of artist that is both uncontroversial and an undeniable bop-maker. Bruno Mars, Ariana Grande, Rihanna, Taylor Swift, The Weeknd, Adele, etc. all fit this mold.

Rihanna has turned out hit after hit while also gradually evolving her sound and image. her whole image does exude a certain swagger that makes it unlikely her fan base will ever turn on her.

Also, I honestly think her longevity is severely underrated. Bitch has been here since 2005! The GP is clamoring for her next album, and there's no denying that whenever she does release it, it's gonna be absolutely massive. Whatever the lead single is will got #1 no matter what, and I would bet it'll yield 1-2 more #1s after that.

Even the most iconic artists (Madonna, Prince, Mariah, MJ, etc.) seem to lose their ability to stay at the forefront after ~20 years, but I definitely see Rihanna being able to remain a major figure in the music landscape for at LEAST another decade, which would put her at about ~25 years of consistent relevance. even icons like Cher have periods of downturn, but Rihanna's legit never flopped.

crucially, tho, Rihanna doesn't write her own music. Her albums are a group effort, which, compared to artists who write and produce their **** (like Gagz & Yonce), is much easier to put out and maintain. whenever she needs a new hit, she's not ever hesitated to bring it new producers, writers, etc.

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22 minutes ago, SLAG said:

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Just now, JOSHMATICA said:

The singles i heard of Lover were terrible, i won't deny she has some good deep cuts but thats about it.

Oh, I agree but I feel that they never sound the same. It's best to listen to the yeehaw songs instead, because her artistry shined there the most.

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1 minute ago, BLACKPINK said:

Oh, I agree but I feel that they never sound the same. It's best to listen to the yeehaw songs instead, because her artistry shined there the most.

Yeah, i think back when she was country she stood out the most. Don't get me wrong, i don't dislike her its just her music isn't for my taste.

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She’s fun, careless, sexy powerful woman. She has changed her sound for every album while keeping her image fresh and unproblematic. That’s why. She has a lot of singles that didn’t succeed as expected but you can’t say she didn’t try it all! 

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Every reason has already been said, not much more I can add. It always amazed me how long she was able to hold the public's interest too but I knew it was only because she was young and hot. I knew once she got older and her sex appeal dropped, she'd be considered uncool and past it and she'd be done. I can see that happening with her next album, if she ever releases it. I'm surprised she made the choice to step back from the industry and lose out on her biggest income. Of course she's proved that make up is making more money for her now but she's lucky she's got the name recognition to make it sell so she could put music on the back burner for it. Many artists wouldn't be able to do that. I wonder if she's ok with not topping the charts anymore when it seemed to be her only goal?

16 hours ago, Quartz said:

Don't come for me but I think a large portion of it is because she's black. Black pop girls are automatically cooler than white pop girls (Beyoncé, Megan, etc.).

She also has that bad ass quality while the other girls seem try-hard. Even at her most commercial (Loud Era), she wasn't overtly trying to please.

I'm glad you were brave enough to say it. I'm completely with you. Black women in music, contrary to what we're told to believe, have always been seen as more cool than the white girls, particularly in the 90's onward. Because almost all the artists I listen to are white women, it was a hard time growing up trying to say the name of someone I listened to who was cool and wouldn't result in me getting laughed at because all these white artists would always have a very narrow window of being cool, if they ever were in the first place, but the black girls were always thought to be cool. We need to stop pretending that the music industry is exactly the same as it was in the 60's. Black artists have been top sellers for a couple of decades now, are widely respected and awarded. There was a year where every song that went #1 in America was by black artist of hip hop influence. And in the last few years, being black in the industry has never been cooler. I refuse to accept otherwise when the facts are in front of me.

16 hours ago, JOSHMATICA said:

Thats not true, the GP will call Beyonce who is one of the most talented artists/performers ever "overrated" but will be happily content with hearing the likes of Ed Sheeran and Taylor Swift on repeat with there same sounding generic c**p 24/7. Rihanna has a lot of good hits/a marketable image but there are times she gets bashed for her singing/performing skills.

There's a difference between being overrated and being uncool. Beyonce's never been uncool, even when she got older, stopped making chart music and started having kids, which makes the average female artists uncool. And having some criticism doesn't mean you're not considered cool at the end of the day. You also overlook how much criticism Ed and Taylor get too. Again, they get criticism but they're still successful at the end of the day. And the GP are into basic music across the board, no matter who's making it.

16 hours ago, Indyl said:

Also, I honestly think her longevity is severely underrated. Bitch has been here since 2005! The GP is clamoring for her next album, and there's no denying that whenever she does release it, it's gonna be absolutely massive. Whatever the lead single is will got #1 no matter what, and I would bet it'll yield 1-2 more #1s after that.

Even the most iconic artists (Madonna, Prince, Mariah, MJ, etc.) seem to lose their ability to stay at the forefront after ~20 years, but I definitely see Rihanna being able to remain a major figure in the music landscape for at LEAST another decade, which would put her at about ~25 years of consistent relevance. even icons like Cher have periods of downturn, but Rihanna's legit never flopped.

I think you're over-exaggerating a little bit here. Rihanna actually has very few hits that have resonated with the public this long, a lot of her old stuff in particular is forgotten and she really has just as many flops as she does hits. I'm not going to say your predictions for her next album won't happen but they sound highly unrealistic. I believe she'll be lucky to get any #1's from this. She's simply been away too long, it'll be the first time she's released an album in her 30's (a hard time for female artists) and trends have moved on. Remember that she's only made one album in nearly 8 years. And Anti (both album and singles) performed terribly internationally, with the exception of Work. It was only the US that truly had her back during that era. If she comes back, she'll have lost her international appeal. The young are now into Ariana, Cardi, Dua, etc. She's not young like these women anymore, she's had her peak. Even if she ever does release this album, there's very little public demand for it, you're confusing it with fan demand. And again, if you think she's never flopped, look at the single performances of the later singles from Talk That Talk, Unapologetic and Anti (again, don't just look at America, look at the big picture). She's been lucky to get two hits per album for nearly a decade. And she's never been a touring force, with her last tour woefully under-attended because Anti wasn't the big hit it was hyped up to be.

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jimmytimestep

People didn’t tire of Rihanna because she (like Ari) has a smart team that chooses great, radio-friendly singles that never feel like she is trying too hard. 

not a single Rihanna album era has gone by without at least one major radio smash (excepting, arguably, her debut). She and her team identify trends and constantly play to them, smartly & confidently.

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