Economy 48,960 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, Suuus said: Gaga does have her own vegestable garden meaning wich i think is a hugs plus I mean that's nice and all but a single private jet flight harms the environment more than what a vegetable garden will help in like a decade. It's barely worth mentioning in her lifestyle as a whole Again I understand the reasons why celebs resort to stuff like that. Tight schedules make private jets a big convinience and also passengers not bothering u for example. I'm not saying cancel Gaga over that. I'm just saying the wealthy and famous telling the rest of us to be more eco friendly when they have a far larger footprint is just hypocritical sounding. Private Jets is just one example. It's their consumption as a whole. For example the amount of electricity to heat or cool large mansions is another example Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 42 minutes ago, Economy said: I mean that's nice and all but a single private jet flight harms the environment more than what a vegetable garden will help in like a decade. It's barely worth mentioning in her lifestyle as a whole Again I understand the reasons why celebs resort to stuff like that. Tight schedules make private jets a big convinience and also passengers not bothering u for example. I'm not saying cancel Gaga over that. I'm just saying the wealthy and famous telling the rest of us to be more eco friendly when they have a far larger footprint is just hypocritical sounding. Private Jets is just one example. It's their consumption as a whole. For example the amount of electricity to heat or cool large mansions is another example Dont forget that when gaga goes on tour gaga will need room for all her stuff also i always thought that commercial flights are more damaging for the environment because the commercial planes are bigger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 48,960 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Suuus said: Dont forget that when gaga goes on tour gaga will need room for all her stuff also i always thought that commercial flights are more damaging for the environment because the commercial planes are bigger Again, I said I understand WHY it's done. I'm not shading Gaga. I'm just saying it's probably not the best thing for her to preach about And that's like saying taking the bus is worse for environment than a car cuz it's bigger A passenger plane is bigger and pollutes more yes but it will have 100 to 300 passengers (depending on size) to divide that pollution. When u take a passenger plane it's only ur weight that's adding to fuel consumption on a plane that was flying already anyway A private jet is an extra plane on the air JUST for you and your small team. It's like the bus. A bus will pollute more than a car but it's carrying many passengers with displaces A LOT of cars which would pollute more if all of them were driving their own vehicle so it's still better Immagine if all those 100 to 300 passengers on a passenger plane took their own private jet how much pollution would that be? That's why although bigger yes a private jet is worse for environment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Economy said: Again, I said I understand WHY it's done. I'm not shading Gaga. I'm just saying it's probably not the best thing for her to preach about And that's like saying taking the bus is worse for environment than a car cuz it's bigger A passenger plane is bigger and pollutes more yes but it will have 100 to 300 passengers (depending on size) to divide that pollution. When u take a passenger plane it's only ur weight that's adding to fuel consumption on a plane that was flying already anyway A private jet is an extra plane on the air JUST for you and your small team. It's like the bus. A bus will pollute more than a car but it's carrying many passengers with displaces A LOT of cars which would pollute more if all of them were driving their own vehicle so it's still better Immagine if all those 100 to 300 passengers on a passenger plane took their own private jet how much pollution would that be? That's why although bigger yes a private jet is worse for environment Maybe gaga could use her private jet for touring only Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 97,748 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Only in here such an innocent story would turn into 4 pages of drama and rambling If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwack 762 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 LOL is she joking? Okay, Haus Labs, private jets, merch, massive tours, wearing 6 outfits in one day, etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Telling people to do stuff like this wont actually change anything. its a much bigger problem than plastic straw and bubble paths. Why not talk to Biden, promote AOC green new deal, vote green party, or anything that will actually change? Im sick of this fake kindness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reysus 1,064 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 I'm not upset with her touring and using private jets because, let's face it, she does have a very different life and it is not her fault that flying commercial would be a security nightmare for her and her touring does provide significant value to many people (like myself). But it is patronizing to hear this coming from someone who has a huge house, a perfectly green lawn in a state with a moisture crisis, multiple gas-guzzling cars, while I, like many people, live in a small apartment, don't own a car, don't even have an AC ()....the list goes on. I just wish she would use her wealth and her platform to change her footprint and encourage change in the US, and if not, don't speak about this issue. On a slightly related note, a lot of 'eco-friendly' products are made by the same big companies that produce the 'regular' products and create tons of plastic waste and pollution, and it's just greenwashing to fool people (like me!) into thinking they're making a difference, unfortunately Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CataleyaDeters 91 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 7 hours ago, reysus said: I'm not upset with her touring and using private jets because, let's face it, she does have a very different life and it is not her fault that flying commercial would be a security nightmare for her and her touring does provide significant value to many people (like myself). But it is patronizing to hear this coming from someone who has a huge house, a perfectly green lawn in a state with a moisture crisis, multiple gas-guzzling cars, while I, like many people, live in a small apartment, don't own a car, don't even have an AC ()....the list goes on. I just wish she would use her wealth and her platform to change her footprint and encourage change in the US, and if not, don't speak about this issue. On a slightly related note, a lot of 'eco-friendly' products are made by the same big companies that produce the 'regular' products and create tons of plastic waste and pollution, and it's just greenwashing to fool people (like me!) into thinking they're making a difference, unfortunately this honestly ....and she still could fly commercial but with all her cargo and teams and security and stuff... so i don´t think booking a private plane is that much heaper than the normal plane one .... Cataleya Deters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollardays 3,676 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Will LG7 be the era of EcologyGa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoanneMonster 8,931 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Gaga I love u but if you want to be kind to the planet u dont eat meat or wear fur I See You Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic 1,415 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Ok so that topic is touching that one thing I never liked about Gaga - her lack of connection with environmental protection, standing up for animals and sustainability. It's like I appreciate all she does for LGBT people and promoting kindness among people. But at the same time how the hell can you promote kindness and have make-up brand, Italian restaurant, travel all the time and use loads of resources for fashion? It's like: make-up brand - loads of plastic waste ending up in the ocean and elsewhere restaurant - selling animal product dishes whilst producing those is responsible for huge deforestation ,GHG emissions, TERRIBLE animal abuse and much more travel - loads of GHG again fashion - I highly doubt her cosumes are particularly using recycled materials, and let's not forget leather and fur stuff so how is it all kind? I know supporting gays helps to sell music, but let's be real... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalLover 16 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Not LMs dragging Gaga for not being the greenest megastar in the world. People are confusing her ecological footprint for kindness. Her career dictates she uses a ton of resources. It's just how it is. She's literally saying choose a green alternative for products you use, which is a good message in general. But I guess it's something totally worth getting mad about... i don't remember ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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