Miley quits veganism: "my brain wasn’t functioning properly"

[Celloo Deng 54,816]

23 minutes ago, RodeckDanny said:

I am a pescatarian and it's so easy! I really recommend it cause being a healthy vegan is so hard (not impossible)

Quitting Meat (pork, chicken, beef) is SO GOOD!!! I never went again to Mcdonalds or Burger king cause I couldn't eat almost anything there and my body and skin are So thankful!   I eat fish and eggs at least 3 times a week and the rest is just veggies and other vegetal proteins/carbs!

This is pretty much exactly the same as me.

As soon as I went pesc about 6 months ago, I stopped getting fast food as much - for me it's a combination of having limited options and that they're some of the worst culprits for factory farming. Not to mention my skin has improved and my stomach feels happier.

[gagaschickens 4]

36 minutes ago, insight said:

What about animals eating animals?

I was quoting the vegan teacher, I don't think eating animals is necessarily wrong. I myself eat chicken and fish.

[Henri Bardot 3,990]

i wouldnt doubt she was following a very expensive, low fat, high carb vegan diet like many of those youtubers out there.

you need 1.2-2.3g of protein per kg of body weight (depends if you lift weight or not)

you need 30-40% of your macros coming from fat

you need to supplement on b12 

ideally take aminoacid supplements

take it easy with kale, spinach and lettuce and focus on lentils, beans, tofu etc.

ideally take your carbs from fruit, but i mean, some oreos dont hurt anyone 

i know 3 types of vegans:

those who never eat protein and feel they’re some sort of bunny or herbivores. malnutrition, weight loss

those who only eat unhealthy fried vegan food or bread and pure carbs (french fries, chips, oreos...). malnutrition, weight gain

and those who vary their diet like it should be. 

i don’t really get those who say being a healthy vegan is expensive. its just as expensive as eating meat, you dont need fancy vegetables or fruit. 

[BlueRose 397]

2 hours ago, paradox said:

 

2 hours ago, Queen Bitch said:

"you mAde such stRonG pOiNTs "

You can live a healthy life without paying someone to kill and transfer for you the animals on your plate. If you can't search for yourselves at least don't roll eyes 

[uo111 5,261]

46 minutes ago, paradox said:

What is your point? You tried claiming the reason why we're omnivores is because there were no supermarkets and that we were stupid and ate any scrap of "roadkill" we could find otherwise we would have starved... MY point was that we actively hunted for animals because it's a natural and primal instinct, and our bodies know what it needs for it to survive to carry on the species. We never ate meat because ~we didn't know about nutrition~ and because there were no Walmarts around lol

It's one thing to say you're vegan for ethics, health concerns etc, but to say we were never meant to eat meat/we're not omnivores... That's all I'm defending, otherwise I couldn't care less about your veganism

We are not omnivores because we need meat, never have been. People hunted to not starve, not because our “bodies knew we needed meat.”

And now we don’t have to wonder or guess what our bodies need, we are 100% positive that we do not need meat because as a species we have gained that knowledge.

No one said we aren’t omnivores, just that being omnivores doesn’t mean that we need meat.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Vampyr said:

I know but the fact that she blames veganism alone for "brain not functioning properly" ....  

But it does happen though. Those who have no idea how to be vegan in the right way, they can lack irons, omega, vitamins and then be malnourished, it's an actual thing. Vegans who do it properly are healthy and doing well

[paradox 4,568]

1 minute ago, uo111 said:

We are not omnivores because we need meat, never have been. People hunted to not starve, not because our “bodies knew we needed meat.”

And now we don’t have to wonder or guess what our bodies need, we are 100% positive that we do not need meat because as a species we have gained that knowledge.

No one said we aren’t omnivores, just that being omnivores doesn’t mean that we need meat.

 I'll just respect your opinion on this one and leave the discussion 

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Vampyr said:

well, maybe she should be careful next time she tries to do something just because it looks cool  idk, but she never gave me any genuine vibes  she's literally the walking definition of poser for me but I may be wrong about her

I actually agree with that lol she seems like the type to do things bcs it looks 'cool', and its been proven in 2013 

[Queen Bitch 10,513]

9 minutes ago, BlueRose said:

 

"you mAde such stRonG pOiNTs "

You can live a healthy life without paying someone to kill and transfer for you the animals on your plate. If you can't search for yourselves at least don't roll eyes 

I know you can live healthy being a vegan. I just don't want to be a vegan. It was more you saying "there's no excuse to not be a vegan" that I rolled my eyes at. There's nothing wrong with eating meat. 

[BlueRose 397]

1 hour ago, Little99 said:

Lol. I don't want to fight with you but you're wrong. You should educate yourself before saying things like that. There are many reasons why people should eat meat. It is not only about the amount of nutrients but also about such a bizarre thing as the fact that people have fangs - this is what a professor at my university always told me. Just to eat meat. The human body needs it. If you don't want to for some reason, okay, your body is yours, but don't say there is only one right option.

There are many reasons not to eat meat too. Every nutrient that there is in meat can me found elsewhere. Are you comparing our little canines to that of a chimpanzee or lion? We have long intestine, saliva, weak nails. You can live a healthy life and not consume animals.  

[Karen Smith 10,026]

2 minutes ago, BlueRose said:

There are many reasons not to eat meat too. Every nutrient that there is in meat can me found elsewhere. Are you comparing our little canines to that of a chimpanzee or lion? We have long intestine, saliva, weak nails. You can live a healthy life and not consume animals.  

I'm not saying that we can use our fangs now, but it's a holdover from our ancestors who also ate meat.

[Chromatican 4,046]

I don’t believe her. She probably just wanted more variety. Like own up to it. All these ex-vegans always bash veganism instead of admitting they want more freedom. She is a multi-millionaire who could have private chefs and afford any diet. Mad that she’s pushing a bs narrative.

[BlueRose 397]

5 minutes ago, Queen Bitch said:

I know you can live healthy being a vegan. I just don't want to be a vegan. It was more you saying "there's no excuse to not be a vegan" that I rolled my eyes at. There's nothing wrong with eating meat. 

The only acceptable response ( for me ) is the " I don't care".  

We basically said the same thing.  Once you have that information that you can be a healthy vegan and you choose to consume animals you are not considering the animals that are being killed by millions every day. basically you prefer convenience over lives because it is still  acceptable from our society to consume animal parts(at least that's my point of you).

 

[BlueRose 397]

8 minutes ago, Little99 said:

I'm not saying that we can use our fangs now, but it's a holdover from our ancestors who also ate meat.

we used to climb trees, rape and slave one another. I can't see your point.

[PeachJug 3,070]

5 hours ago, sarahb said:

Maybe those vegan tattoos weren't a great idea...

prob not.. But veganism did play a big role in her life and we got some good songs out of it so

Sounds like she still supports it + the reasons behind but can't do it herself