It Begins! Polish PM Wanted To Build Conversion Camps For LGBT+

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The original news written in Polish. So any Polish members who can translate it into English are welcomed.

 

Morawiecki: W Polsce mamy pełen zakres swobód, tolerancji i wolności

Premier stwierdził, że zgadza się z wydanym przez Episkopat stanowiskiem.

,,Generalnie trzeba powiedzieć, że w Polsce mamy pełen zakres swobód, tolerancji, szacunku i wolności dla wszystkich, którzy nie naruszają wolności drugiego człowieka

,,Jeżeli ktoś ma taką, a nie inną potrzebę ekspresji, a jednocześnie też takie, a nie inne poglądy i wyznaje takie, a nie inne wartości, które dla kogoś innego mogą być wartościami nieakceptowalnymi, (to) jednak tak długo, jak nie narusza to wolności drugiego człowieka, również jego godności, a także szacunku wobec drugiego człowieka, to my w pełni tolerujemy, a ja w szczególności również, wszelkie takie idee czy ideologie

- mówił Morawiecki. - Ale gdy narusza się wolności drugiego człowieka, albo godność, albo gdy się prowokuje niepotrzebnie, a z takimi akcjami też mieliśmy do czynienia, to mówimy "dość", ja mówię "dość". Tolerancja - tak, ale nachalna propaganda i afirmacja pewnych ideologii - niekoniecznie, albo po prostu nie - dodał.

 

Google Translated:

Morawiecki: In Poland, we have a full range of freedoms, tolerance and freedom

The prime minister stated that he agreed with the position issued by the Episcopate.

,,Generally, it must be said that in Poland we have a full range of freedoms, tolerance, respect and freedom for all who do not infringe the freedom of another human being.

,,If someone has the need for expression, and at the same time, and at the same time such and not other views and professes such and not other values that for someone else may be unacceptable values, (that) as long as it does not violate freedom the other person, also their dignity, as well as respect for another person, we fully tolerate, and in particular I also, all such ideas or ideologies

- said Morawiecki. - But when the freedom of another person or dignity is violated, or when one provokes unnecessarily, and we also had to deal with such actions, we say "enough", I say "enough". Tolerance - yes, but intrusive propaganda and affirmation of certain ideologies - not necessarily or simply not, he added.

 

Full article at Source:

https://wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/wiadomosci/7,114884,26250636,mamy-w-polsce-pelen-zakres-swobod-i-tolerancji-premier-poparl.amp?__twitter_impression=true

 

Isn't this country was once concentration camps during Nazi ruling? It is sad that history will repeat itself here 

 

[TaylorSwift 162,285]

Where there is anything about camps? 

[flyaway 15,350]

That's why progress doesn't happen as fast as it should. 'cause people waste too much time, energy and money on hating other people's lifestyle. They don't even take the time to talk to LGBT+ people about it, they just demonize and freak out (freak out freak out freak out ) because they are terrified of things they don't understand. 

So stupid. Why are some people so stupid? 

 

[RAMROD 116,999]

9 minutes ago, 777777777777777777 said:

Where there is anything about camps? 

There is links for full article for a reason

Copy pasting full article is not allowed here. So learn how to use it?

[calmar 22,766]

9 minutes ago, 777777777777777777 said:

Where there is anything about camps? 

"Contrary to science and the position of the United Nations, it was also recommended that specialist clinics be established in Poland, where it would be possible to "regain sexual health and natural sexual orientation". This is about so-called conversion therapy, i.e. a pseudoscientific method (which proves that sexual orientation can be "cured"), against which medical institutions and clinics, led by the Polish Sexological Society, warn." (translated)

[AphroditeLaydee 1,230]

thats horrifying

 

[RudraCNG 15,506]

One would expect Poland of all coutries to be more sensitive to this nazi behaviour.

[Guest]

not yall still pretending as if it isnt still happening in the us

 

[gagaschickens 4]

Conversion therapy should be illegal, it sounds horrifying. 

[Mikolaj 11,640]

12 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

There is links for full article for a reason

Copy pasting full article is not allowed here. So learn how to use it?

Hi, I'm Polish. The word 'camp' does not appear in the whole article once. This is about access to conversion therapy, which is a horrible thing to promote but if you want to fight for the good cause, don't do it with disinformation.

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1 minute ago, alicefromabove said:

They don't even take the time to talk to LGBT+ people about it

Ruling party in Poland is really close with Catholic church who says that LGBT is aganst Bible. Most people in Poland are Catholic. This party with church are trying to convince people that LGBT is dangerous for polish families and even use them to scary old people and pretend to protect nation from LGBT. They will never tolerate them because they are using them for their political goals.

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I've just came back from Poland - I visited Auschwitz and it was heartbreaking.

I don't understand how a country that has experienced so much wrongdoing can revert to implementing horrific ideas again. 

 

[Mikolaj 11,640]

This is not about conversion camps, this is about building conversion clinics. It's giving people access to this kind of therapy, not shutting whole swarms of gays in a locked camp. What has been said by the prime minister isn't taken from Nazi Germany book outright, but fits into their rhetoric to marginalize and silence LGBT and maintain status quo.

@RAMROD since you asked, this is (almost) full translation of the text. Any Polish people can PM me with suggestions and I'll update it here.

 

Mateusz Morawiecki (the Prime Minister) in an interview with Radio Rodzina (Radio Family) agreed with the stance of Episcopal Conference of Poland which suggests that "special clinics" should be created for people who want to "restore natural sexual orientation". 'In general it should be said that in Poland there is full freedom and tolerance for everyone who does not violate the freedom of another human' - said the prime minister.

During Saturday interview, the prime minister was asked about the stance released by the Episcopal Conference of Poland regarding the LGBT community. It pointed out that people "related to LGBT" movement should be addressed with respect, but the Polish church "cannot agree to extension of the idea of marriage, family, and equalizing the rights and privileges of heterosexual and homosexual marraiges". Contrary to scientific research and the United Nations stance, it was recommended that specialist clinics are created in Poland where "one can regain sexual health and natural sexual orientation". This means so called conversion therapy, a pseudo-scientific method that has been warned against by medical institutions, including Polish Sexology Society (?).

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The prime minister declared that he agrees with the stance of the Episcopate.

'In general it should be said that in Poland there is full freedom and tolerance for everyone who does not violate the freedom of another human being. If someone feels the need to express certain way, holds certain views, and professes certain values which could be unacceptable to others, we fully tolerate, me especially, all ideas or ideologies, as long as they do not violate freedom, dignity, or respect for another human being', said prime minister. 'But when freedom or dignity of another human is violated, or when there is unnecessary provocation, and we have seen this before, we say "enough", I say "enough". Tolerance - yes, but blatant propaganda and affirmation of certain ideologies - not necessarily, or outright: no', he added.

 

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2 hours ago, 777777777777777777 said:

Ruling party in Poland is really close with Catholic church who says that LGBT is aganst Bible. Most people in Poland are Catholic. This party with church are trying to convince people that LGBT is dangerous for polish families and even use them to scary old people and pretend to protect nation from LGBT. They will never tolerate them because they are using them for their political goals.

Religion should definitely stay appart from political decisions. It is so obsolete to still depend on religion to tell the people what to do. 

[Suuus 5,632]

2 hours ago, monster said:

not yall still pretending as if it isnt still happening in the us

 

Nobody is saying that