Trump Advisor’s teen daughter plans to divorce her mom [over abuse +] RNC

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1 minute ago, ShadowHunter said:

Spank me harder for discerning, harder I said! 

God you’re ignorant. Reading the rest of your replies on this thread confirms that. I like debating people with differing opinions but you’re not even debating, you’re just being wack 

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5 hours ago, alsemanche said:

Anyway liberalism and centrism are a disease get well soon 

 

LMAO PLEASEEEE  Y’all are going off a bit tew much 😭 Good arguments cured my liberalism (stanned Hillary in 2016), not this shade 

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1 hour ago, Economy said:

I think it's a lot more complicated than being able to blame a specific generation for climate change or economic disparity. All these things that led to this have been set in motion long before  boomers were even born...

 

Although for getting Trump elected yeah they did that

I acknowledge that, but it’s the turning point and the lack of acknowledgement to do anything to help, for me. I got my point from vids like this. I feel like the guy makes pretty good points

 

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3 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said:

I acknowledge that, but it’s the turning point and the lack of acknowledgement to do anything to help, for me. I got my point from vids like this. I feel like the guy makes pretty good points

 

I definitely don't think the issues were the boomers fault per say. Like I said they continued trends and policies that were already set in motion before them and inherited an economy taking a certain path since industrial revolution in many ways

 

But I agree with what u are saying about not acknowledging or doing enough

 

I think it's because the boomers were the peak generation in economic prosperity. Standard of living kind of hit a peak in their generation and they had it better than anyone else so they don't acknowledge how bad some things are getting now for young ones

 

For example insane cost of housing. My grandparents in Toronto have a house worth $1.4M. They do not understand the struggle of expensive housing cuz when they bought it 50 years ago housing was way more affordable, now they just sit in wealth that literally fell on their lap because of realestate inflation and the expense of my generation

 

But that's human nature. We only tend to acknowledge stuff well when we ourselves struggle with the problems.

 

Even our generation. So much protests and awareness about our struggles... Yet human beings in Africa  who have it so much worse than us are not any kind of priority and barely get attention or awareness. We know it's happening but we don't do much activism about it

 

The boomers haven't felt our struggles just like the average person in developed world hasn't felt the struggles of most of the people in the world

 

I feel like we do the same thing boomers in our developed countries do we are just further down the chain. We envy them, but we have a lot of people globally worse than us that don't get much attention from us or a serious effort to do anything about it

 

In principal were not better. Were just further down the chain of priveledged life so we have more to complain about than they did

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44 minutes ago, Economy said:

I definitely don't think the issues were the boomers fault per say. Like I said they continued trends and policies that were already set in motion before them and inherited an economy taking a certain path since industrial revolution in many ways

 

But I agree with what u are saying about not acknowledging or doing enough

 

I think it's because the boomers were the peak generation in economic prosperity. Standard of living kind of hit a peak in their generation and they had it better than anyone else so they don't acknowledge how bad some things are getting now for young ones

 

For example insane cost of housing. My grandparents in Toronto have a house worth $1.4M. They do not understand the struggle of expensive housing cuz when they bought it 50 years ago housing was way more affordable, now they just sit in wealth that literally fell on their lap because of realestate inflation and the expense of my generation

 

But that's human nature. We only tend to acknowledge stuff well when we ourselves struggle with the problems.

 

Even our generation. So much protests and awareness about our struggles... Yet human beings in Africa  who have it so much worse than us are not any kind of priority and barely get attention or awareness. We know it's happening but we don't do much activism about it

 

The boomers haven't felt our struggles just like the average person in developed world hasn't felt the struggles of most of the people in the world

 

I feel like we do the same thing boomers in our developed countries do we are just further down the chain. We envy them, but we have a lot of people globally worse than us that don't get much attention from us or a serious effort to do anything about it

 

In principal were not better. Were just further down the chain of priveledged life so we have more to complain about than they did

Yeah you spilled that this is all very first world problem-y, and I do support the idea of helping developing countries, but first world problems are still problems. Also I’ve heard millennials are the first gen to not be positioned to be better off then their parents, since that started to be tracked in the 1800s. Something definitely broke.

Plus the 2008 recession + this virus literally 12 years later spells doom for this gen, yet again, all the money went to the top bc so many believe in the myth of trickle own economics. 70% of the economy is consumer spending, so something like a UBI would have made more sense. Unfortunately, Republicans she spending money and have deluded themselves into thinking people are just too lazy to work, while thanks to corporate socialism, the stock market is breaking records like an Adele album. 

I saw a doc recently about how China is investing heavily in African countries to lift them from poverty, which is great, but if you look at how their government operates socially (hello hong kong), it’s kinda unnerving. 

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13 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said:

Yeah you spilled that this is all very first world problem-y, and I do support the idea of helping developing countries, but first world problems are still problems. Also I’ve heard millennials are the first gen to not be positioned to be better off then their parents, since that started to be tracked in the 1800s. Something definitely broke.

Plus the 2008 recession + this virus literally 12 years later spells doom for this gen, yet again, all the money went to the top bc so many believe in the myth of trickle own economics. 70% of the economy is consumer spending, so something like a UBI would have made more sense. Unfortunately, Republicans she spending money and have deluded themselves into thinking people are just too lazy to work, while thanks to corporate socialism, the stock market is breaking records like an Adele album. 

I saw a doc recently about how China is investing heavily in African countries to lift them from poverty, which is great, but if you look at how their government operates socially (hello hong kong), it’s kinda unnerving. 

My point with the Africa and extreme world poverty was just to point out many of our generation do the exact same thing we accuse boomers of doing. We complain they don't take our issues seriously enough as they have it better but there's ppl world wide who from their perspective see we have it better and we kinda turn a blind eye. So I was just pointing it out cuz ppl tend to view boomers as ignorant and unaware because they lived too comfortably but we notice it relative to us. But going further down the chain if you start to include groups of people from other Nations the same can be said about us

 

As for trickdown economics in my opinion it's not so much that it's a myth but it's more that it's an outdated model. I think trickle down economics and standard capitalist ideas worked fine in 1950s for example

 

In the modern economy with more and more automation that reduces labor requirements for same amount of production, a globalized world where companies when they invest it may not necessarily be in your country but could be offshored... Money just doesn't trickle or flow down like it used to unless it's forced with taxes and stuff

 

It used to be that if you cut taxes for big companies and they had more to spend they might invest and hire more and create more jobs, and a tighter job market created wage gains with competition etc. Money flowed up but it also flowed down too. Everyone benefited from economic growth

 

Now, having extra investment cash available may simply mean a new machine without jobs that come with it. Or if jobs are created it could be offshore in another nation. So a tax cut to Corporation often won't yield any results anymore

 

As for Universal Income I'm not against the idea provided it can be paid for sustainably and in a way that doesn't discourage labor force participation... But I don't think basic income should be the main focus for best results

 

If the government gets more tax revenue from the wealthy I think heavier investments in infrastructure, and educational trainings programs or just making education more affordable in general (skills mismatch is a major issue in the modern economy that is so technical and hurts both workers and companies alike) would yield more results than just basic income because you get more ripple effect this way with actual productive jobs doing something to build society

 

I'm not in anyway against having safety nets for the most disadvantaged that need it but I do have an issue when some on the left over emphasize it as a way to fix our economy. I think it's more like an extra supplement. But theres better ways to get more bang for the buck in terms of results IMO

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2 hours ago, brownie said:

God you’re ignorant. Reading the rest of your replies on this thread confirms that. I like debating people with differing opinions but you’re not even debating, you’re just being wack 

i mean i can’t make you understand my point? I thought I was pretty clear, I meant to say that the left is media savy, that this girl is feeding into and being fed by a particular moment in time and has something to gain, that I disagree with her decisions going against her family so aggressively in the public eye (that is MY way of seeing it), that I see people here yaasssing it like am I the brain dead one? Lmao, I guess it takes one to know one, but probably not because I’m not brain dead. Anwyay, I don’t subscribe to BLM and that doesn’t make me racist, it makes me an individual who won’t support a cause that is founded by pro Palestine, pro Maduro, pro Socialist ignorants, I will always be on the side of justice, I will forever be against cheap labor from prison, I will be against police brutality (of which I know pretty closely coming from Venezuela), I will be against ALM because it is an equally simplistic mindset, I will be in favor of peaceful protests, I will be against looting (I don’t believe in years of pent up anger, like c’mon dude.... a crime is a crime is a crime, and the extent to which one is guilty of being a looter can only be measured up against motivation, but if you tell me that a TV is bringing about justice then you have lost your point), I am in favor of no immunity for police, I am against the Breanna Taylor murderers, I am sadly pro Trump in these elections because I fear a Biden presidency will mean an extended dictatorship in Venezuela, I equally think Trump is a trash president (but hey, I’ve lived 22 years under a dictatorship, I believe the US can handle 4 years of a moron) etc etc etc anyway, I am an individual with brains and no I am not whack, I just rather sometimes respond with satire than to go on and on about the grey area I live in and rejoice in baby. I invite you to call me names again to see if we get any farther in this discussion  

peace and love

[lego 44,165]

nvm 

[ShadowHunter 866]

Just now, lego said:

 

Explain 

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1 minute ago, lego said:

 

[ShadowHunter 866]

Just now, lego said:

 

What is so funny about the starvation of thousands upon thousands of Venezuelans? What is so funny about the largest emigration issue in Latin America? What is so funny about a narco dictatorship/organised crime running free and allowing safe haven to organisations such as Hezbollah and Hammas? Laugh again “lego” man, laugh, I implore you 

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15 minutes ago, Economy said:

My point with the Africa and extreme world poverty was just to point out many of our generation do the exact same thing we accuse boomers of doing. We complain they don't take our issues seriously enough as they have it better but there's ppl world wide who from their perspective see we have it better and we kinda turn a blind eye. So I was just pointing it out cuz ppl tend to view boomers as ignorant and unaware because they lived too comfortably but we notice it relative to us. But going further down the chain if you start to include groups of people from other Nations the same can be said about us

 

As for trickdown economics in my opinion it's not so much that it's a myth but it's more that it's an outdated model. I think trickle down economics and standard capitalist ideas worked fine in 1950s for example

 

In the modern economy with more and more automation that reduces labor requirements for same amount of production, a globalized world where companies when they invest it may not necessarily be in your country but could be offshored... Money just doesn't trickle or flow down like it used to unless it's forced with taxes and stuff

 

It used to be that if you cut taxes for big companies and they had more to spend they might invest and hire more and create more jobs, and a tighter job market created wage gains with competition etc. Money flowed up but it also flowed down too. Everyone benefited from economic growth

 

Now, having extra investment cash available may simply mean a new machine without jobs that come with it. Or if jobs are created it could be offshore in another nation. So a tax cut to Corporation often won't yield any results anymore

 

As for Universal Income I'm not against the idea provided it can be paid for sustainably and in a way that doesn't discourage labor force participation... But I don't think basic income should be the main focus for best results

 

If the government gets more tax revenue from the wealthy I think heavier investments in infrastructure, and educational trainings programs or just making education more affordable in general (skills mismatch is a major issue in the modern economy that is so technical and hurts both workers and companies alike) would yield more results than just basic income because you get more ripple effect this way with actual productive jobs doing something to build society

 

I'm not in anyway against having safety nets for the most disadvantaged that need it but I do have an issue when some on the left over emphasize it as a way to fix our economy. I think it's more like an extra supplement. But theres better ways to get more bang for the buck in terms of results IMO

I agree with your rabbit hole theory but respectfully, I don’t really know why you brought it up. Yes we are better off than countries like Libya and Sudan, but you could argue they also **** on people below them, like their religions discriminations of LGBT+ POC thanks to their religions. I am grateful for my first world position on the earth, but I don’t think that negates the responsibility for fighting for a better world. 

Also great analysis on the Reaganomics thing. Thanks for the background, it makes a lot of sense. Automation really is highly underrated for stealing jobs huh? Yeah immigrants are also all up in the jobs market, but they’re waaay too overused. 

and yeah I liked the UBI idea, but investing in infrastructure really is the main goal. The one good thing Biden did was promise to have free community college for those under $125k salary. Those are the best for lifting those from poverty to middle class with good practical skills.

I realized last night that I wouldn’t cry if Universities stayed expensive. Yeah we need to eliminate all student debt but like Ivy league schools are the Gucci of education: nice and fancy but a belt is still a belt. I just mentioned UBI in regards to rn w the virus... as public works projects probably can’t be done while doing social distancing. In the long run, infrastructure is a good thing to fix. 

I want that high speed Toronto - Ottawa railroad bad 

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I challenge ONE person in this thread to find a piece of commonality with me, you will find several, if instead you rather laugh at me, then please, I encourage you to take things with a broader set of mind

[StarstruckIllusion 53,565]

2 minutes ago, ShadowHunter said:

What is so funny about the starvation of thousands upon thousands of Venezuelans? What is so funny about the largest emigration issue in Latin America? What is so funny about a narco dictatorship/organised crime running free and allowing safe haven to organisations such as Hezbollah and Hammas? Laugh again “lego” man, laugh, I implore you 

Not Vuvuela...

Democratic socialists are calling for the socialism of the Scandinavian countries. What you’re referring to is authoritarian socialism. Nobody’s asking for that... like how am I getting likes for saying I want to save the planet yet I also secretly want the government to kill its own citizens??? Make it make sense 😭 Not all leftism is the same. 

P.S. maybe Venezuela would be better off if the US hadn’t tried to stage a coup and regime change after its harsh sanctions on them in the past <3

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1 minute ago, ShadowHunter said:

Laugh again “lego” man, laugh, I implore you 

 

No one has time nor energy to argue with essays of ignorance. I just saw few laughable statements, then I checked again, there were 10 more.  It’s enough to know you’re anti Palestinian and anti BLM. That means you approve of Israeli apartheid and occupation and you’re (at least) ok with RACISM. You said “BLM is founded by pro Palestine” (what?!) but then “you’ll always be on side of justice” which is an obvious CONTRADICTION. Honestly, no one has time for this.