Pharamon 6,839 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 redlight it along with all these baby pageant nonsensical shows... OH I JUST REALIZED yall on this page are for honey boo boo and all this and suddenly become outraged by this? should I say welcome to 2020? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audrey horne 1,180 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Oh wow a bunch of americans discovering social realism in (french) cinema. It's just a film about growing up between different cultures and influences. You should try to watch their stories without judgement. ^ original poster for french movie theaters. I don't know why Netflix pushed the another one, it was indeed confusing for puritan Amerika. To be fair the outrage comes from people trying to control (black) girls bodies/image, as usual. Some of the comments are full of racial stereotypes associating twerking girls of color with a supposedly deviant behavior. No, twerking doesn't always have to be perceived in a suggestive way, it's just a type of dance. You all are projecting your own misconceptions. If current issues can't be depicted on film anymore, even when people have lived the stories they try to tell, cinema would be so bland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not The Real Gaga 7,545 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 14 hours ago, Suuus said: I never understood why children are allowed to act in adult movies but are not allowed to watch the movie their acting in Because editing and movie magic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToxicHot 6,444 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I love how most of you people are so quick to pull the “pEdOpHiLe!!1!1!” card without actually knowing the facts. Same goes for a lot of other topics we have here. And for what? To demonize successful artists or concepts you just can’t seem to comprehend?? Never change, GaGaDaily. dOnT sAd ReAcT mE 2 bE sHaDy i WiLL RePoRt U!!1! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaSine 7,464 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, audrey horne said: Oh wow a bunch of americans discovering social realism in (french) cinema. It's just a film about growing up between different cultures and influences. You should try to watch their stories without judgement. ^ original poster for french movie theaters. I don't know why Netflix pushed the another one, it was indeed confusing for puritan Amerika. To be fair the outrage comes from people trying to control (black) girls bodies/image, as usual. Some of the comments are full of racial stereotypes associating twerking girls of color with a supposedly deviant behavior. No, twerking doesn't always have to be perceived in a suggestive way, it's just a type of dance. You all are projecting your own misconceptions. If current issues can't be depicted on film anymore, even when people have lived the stories they try to tell, cinema would be so bland. Yes that’s why I mentioned it was French, i don’t think ppl realize the culture around sexuality in real life and in film is different all around the world. Some cultures do not view stuff like nudity as inherently sexual or damaging so parents will be naked around their children, and movies depicting sexuality or nudity are not necessarily viewed as inappropriate for kids of a certain age. Especially considering this film is partially autobiographical and how underrepresented women are as directors I would not want to see this film be banned/censored for being real. Most women I know talk about how they were sexualized by adult men at a young age and cat called etc (especially black girls). I think it is absolutely a conversation worth having. Yes, we should be careful and watch out for child sexual abuse, it is a real problem in many institutions (hello Catholic Church), but Puritanism only makes it worse because it makes children feel ashamed and like their is something wrong with sexuality/their bodies and results in a lot of psychological issues later on. The comment someone made here something along the lines of “feminism? Exploring sexuality? At 11 years old? Go do your homework!” Is ab absolutely cruel, regressive and wrong viewpoint. The more educated, confident and knowledgeable a child is about themselves and their body the better they are actually protected form sexual abuse. It reminds me of when I told a therapist I was forced to see by the police after a suicide attempt that I had been depressed since 12 and he said, “Why would a 12 year old be depressed? Shouldn’t you have been playing with dolls?” I also think art about difficult things is important and only adds further nuance and understanding. But I also greatly enjoying controversial films so perhaps I am biased. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUtterfield 8 41,466 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petty 9,412 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Blue Lagoon said: Exactly. Period. The issue with me since my first comment in this post was about that poster. Glad it’s changed, as it should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 52,790 Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Blue Lagoon said: The way I had to edit OP saying this was one of the main issues 😭 I thought it was obvious. Waking up to 4 pages of stupid arguments and weird morals and then this saved it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlopSlurper 34,336 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I haven't watched the movie so I can't judge but I'm here for netflix getting dragged Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 52,790 Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 42 minutes ago, audrey horne said: Oh wow a bunch of americans discovering social realism in (french) cinema. It's just a film about growing up between different cultures and influences. You should try to watch their stories without judgement. ^ original poster for french movie theaters. I don't know why Netflix pushed the another one, it was indeed confusing for puritan Amerika. To be fair the outrage comes from people trying to control (black) girls bodies/image, as usual. Some of the comments are full of racial stereotypes associating twerking girls of color with a supposedly deviant behavior. No, twerking doesn't always have to be perceived in a suggestive way, it's just a type of dance. You all are projecting your own misconceptions. If current issues can't be depicted on film anymore, even when people have lived the stories they try to tell, cinema would be so bland. I do not support attacking little girls themselves for this. They clearly don’t know how bad it is. I don’t know why you brought race up bc it’s equally bad if any race of girls does it - that's the point. And not this “twerking doesn’t have to be perceived as sexual” argument - it’s literally widely perceived that way by many, why it’s so popular right now, and how the director frames it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Someone said it’s interesting topic, like so original omg never done before hijabis are always sooo oppressed, the envy their white european counterparts they can’t do anything because of their conservative religion!1 and parents! 🙄🙄 They just need to remove the hijab to be FREE! Why is it always, Muslims in movies are either terrorists or from some super conservative backwards family who abuse their kids, they just want to choose husband for their young daughters and ban everything in this world. Why always the same trope? or falling in love with white boy? That is BS, hijabis can both dance and do sports and they do IRL! They can be practicing AND normal FREE teens or young women with great parents. But why does it had to be TWERKING of all dance types? Girl stealing money so they can all buy bras and sexy underwear (that’s on official poster)? Another in tight leather pants dancing suggestively? This movie is a treat for both pdf files and islamophobes. Now go on, call me prude. I’m actually raising 3 girls. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphaz 7,956 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I think some of you guys a bit exaggerating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 another thing, you can’t say twerking is not sexual when it’s done by 11 year olds and the problem is in adults, but at the same time the “move is criticizing hyper-sexualizing of young girls” (which trailer doesn’t show)? so it is or it isn’t? This would be better done as documentary, if that’s honestly director’s intention. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,305 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Like others pointed out, it is actually a film denouncing the very things it's being accused of right now. The issue is the way Netflix has chosen to advertise it. For comparison, here is the original poster: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audrey horne 1,180 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, StarstruckIllusion said: I do not support attacking little girls themselves for this. They clearly don’t know how bad it is. I don’t know why you brought race up bc it’s equally bad if any race of girls does it - that's the point. And not this “twerking doesn’t have to be perceived as sexual” argument - it’s literally widely perceived that way by many, why it’s so popular right now, and how the director frames it. I disagree. As you said, it's your own perception on black american and afro cultures, based on a long history of stereotypes regarding black bodies. Just ask google why it's biased. French youth, especially those who grew up in banlieues (french ghettos) often navigate between cultures, religious backgrounds and easy access of american/american influenced pop-culture through music videos and social medias. These innocent girls are only playing and dreaming of being pop-stars. Through the director's critical pov, hypersexualisation of young girls is literally the topic of the movie, it's obvious you will face some of it on screen. edit: The movie is not pedophilic, your interpretation was only based on misinformed tweets on a poster chosen by Netflix. It doesn't do any justice for the work involved in making that movie. Its ratings on IMDb are already abyssmal, all thanks to a poor communication move from Netflix. It's not fair. Change your title, update the OP please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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