Varys 30,916 Posted August 16, 2020 Author Share Posted August 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sepsami said: It starts with having an open heart, a lot of them don't have that because they're raised to believe gays are evil & abominations. Their family might be mature enough to not go out of their way to hurt gays, but they often won't bat an eye if their young family members are talking bad about gays or even Western women. This kinda change has to start from home & schools.. Yes I think education is also a big factor. Like all the people from these background in my highschool and college were not homophobic. And the parents have no control over them. They are hanging on the streets doing drugs Andy dont even think particulary religous. Just young boys being bored wanting to be cool and belong in a group Banned 04/19/2020 - 04/19/2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 20,953 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Varys said: Yes I think education is also a big factor. Like all the people from these background in my highschool and college were not homophobic. And the parents have no control over them. They are hanging on the streets doing drugs Andy dont even think particulary religous. Just young boys being bored wanting to be cool and belong in a group 100% all of this, it's often a lack of direction in parenting imo (like teens shouldn't be out so late on a school night etc.). I also went to school with a lot of people from different backgrounds and had mostly had good experiences, especially in college (literally no one ever bothered me). So yeah, education & parenting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varys 30,916 Posted August 16, 2020 Author Share Posted August 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sepsami said: they're as young as 14 too I had one cus me out at random and when his voice broke he just shut up immediately Well omg I forgot I have been yelled at 2 times. Last week but that was because I have a high voice which is not directly homophobic but like he was mimicking it and he was like 12 and with one friend so I wand scared so I said (I know its not nice) I cznt help that I was born with a high voice like am not saying to you that you were born fat and he was quiet real fast. Also I had 2 boyfriends of my girlfriends with me who have muscles so they could protect me nnnnn Banned 04/19/2020 - 04/19/2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonky 671 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 I feel like migrant crisis destroyed European open-mindedness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varys 30,916 Posted August 16, 2020 Author Share Posted August 16, 2020 Just now, Lemonky said: I feel like migrant crisis destroyed European open-mindedness wdym? Banned 04/19/2020 - 04/19/2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonky 671 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Just now, Varys said: wdym? Since 2015. right-wing is rising in almost all EU countries, it comes with homophobia, racism and other gross "opinions"... Some people say that conservativism rises when people are in fear, and refugee crisis could have triggered that if you understand what I'm trying to say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varys 30,916 Posted August 16, 2020 Author Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Lemonky said: Since 2015. right-wing is rising in almost all EU countries, it comes with homophobia, racism and other gross "opinions"... Some people say that conservativism rises when people are in fear, and refugee crisis could have triggered that if you understand what I'm trying to say i agree but these is not a right wing attack. These are chechen people not belgians Banned 04/19/2020 - 04/19/2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 20,953 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Varys said: Well omg I forgot I have been yelled at 2 times. Last week but that was because I have a high voice which is not directly homophobic but like he was mimicking it and he was like 12 and with one friend so I wand scared so I said (I know its not nice) I cznt help that I was born with a high voice like am not saying to you that you were born fat and he was quiet real fast. Also I had 2 boyfriends of my girlfriends with me who have muscles so they could protect me nnnnn Ma'am I get petty real fast if I get insulted, especially from little kids so you were absolutely in your right and I would have done the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpadesToStart 3,808 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, JK Rowling said: I’m friends with several guys from Islamic backgrounds and it is possible to make them more homofriendly. It took years but kindness can kill the phobia. By showing them that I can be a great friend, I was able to change their minds. Sadly, it’s going to take more than me to win this war. It’s sad that hate is the default for these people and that it has to be untaught. I’ve never understood how people can have hatred for a group that they’ve never interacted with and that has never personally harmed them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varys 30,916 Posted August 16, 2020 Author Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Sepsami said: Ma'am I get petty real fast if I get insulted, especially from little kids so you were absolutely in your right and I would have done the same Little kids are so rude these days. I would never have dared to say what they say. Banned 04/19/2020 - 04/19/2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonky 671 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Varys said: i agree but these is not a right wing attack. These are chechen people not belgians Ooh I misunderstood post, sorry. Horrible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,826 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 If this happened in the US, Trump would come out with some bullshit statement like “they’re very fine kids” and then it would blow up into a huge political war where even cops would publicly state they wouldn’t persecute the gang members. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelney 1,458 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Sepsami said: Could you tell me who she is please? I keep seeing her gifs everywhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubblegum Bitch 18,934 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Those people are fans of Russian anti-LGBT site 'Saw'? It seems like I've read about them before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 20,953 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Towelney said: Could you tell me who she is please? I keep seeing her gifs everywhere É A GRETCHEN, A CANTORA! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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