Is Gaga being limited by her fanbase?

[Kimmo 80,690]

1 minute ago, M Monstre said:

You said it was "anything but good," sweetie. What is that supposed to mean? So was it an amazing album? Was it a great album? Was it a spectacular album? No, you meant it was a bad album. Stop trying to win with technicalities when we know what you meant  You literally said in this same quote that "it has no replay value." You think it's a terrible album. That's *your opinion,* is it not?  

I don't think Taylor's writing is bad at all, but I just don't understand how you could say that Gaga's better only at writing repetitive pop music  Go listen to Chromatica and Born This Way. Those two albums alone have some of the best lyrics I've ever heard. 

Then listen to more albums 

 

[holy scheisse 22,254]

37 minutes ago, MANiCURE 6 said:

She served us jazz, country pop and ballads and we enjoyed it.

Speak for yourself

 

But it does prove the point that she does have freedom to branch out and no she is not limited

[REALITY 76,326]

14 minutes ago, Kimmo said:

Then listen to more albums 

Then go stan Taylor Swift  

[Pray4FameGa 3,141]

Chromatica is extremely experimental.

Its just so high quality and polished that you can’t tell.

I think it’s Gaga’s best album.

I just think her whole persona lately of acting like she’s above music and she’s an advocate of all things overshadows it and is cringey tbh.

Just shut up and serve for once.

[Omar Vela 2,744]

Gaga is only limited by herself (and Interscope lol) stop blaming her fanbase for every wrong choice she has done 

[Omar Vela 2,744]

1 minute ago, Pray4FameGa said:

Chromatica is extremely experimental.

Its just so high quality and polished that you can’t tell.

I think it’s Gaga’s best album.

I just think her whole persona lately of acting like she’s above music and she’s an advocate of all things overshadows it and is cringey tbh.

Just shut up and serve for once.

Mother Teresa syndrome...

[NFRatwell 23,290]

Gaga limits herself. Her solo albums have literally been:

Dance-pop 

Dance-pop

Dance-pop

Dance-pop

Pop ft Dance-pop

Dance-pop 

She couldn’t even commit to the “raw” and personal sound she proposed Joanne was. And when she does actually explore other music she needs someone else like Tony or Bradley to give her a reason to.

[Slappy 392]

3 minutes ago, NFRockwell said:

Gaga limits herself. Her solo albums have literally been:

Dance-pop 

Dance-pop

Dance-pop

Dance-pop

Pop ft Dance-pop

Dance-pop 

She couldn’t even commit to the “raw” and personal sound she proposed Joanne was. And when she does actually explore other music she needs someone else like Tony or Bradley to give her a reason to.

To be fair, none of her albums sound like the other.

 

Other than that I have to agree with you

[Regina George 59,387]

1 hour ago, Kimmo said:

Joanne was anything but a good album, the only good song was Million Reasons other than that it was a skip 

Plus you can’t compare Taylor to Gaga when it comes to writing. Taylor is a master at writing, her songs are very complex where Gaga is more repetitive. 

Facts but get ready for people to drag you because people can’t be objective here even if their life depended on it.

[NFRatwell 23,290]

Just now, Slappy said:

To be fair, none of her albums sound like the other.

I agree with you on that, there’s tons of sub genres in dance-pop and if she wanted to she could keep putting out different sounding dance-pop albums for the rest of her career. But if you’re a musician who prides yourself on being trained in rock, jazz, classical music, etc. but the only solo albums you’ve put out have been pop  Meanwhile you have someone like Taylor, who’s put out 3 1/2 country albums (yeah I’m gonna include Red as a mix between pop and country) 3 1/2 pop albums, and now just released an alternative album. There’s a clear growth there to me. 

[LilyLark 10,098]

20 minutes ago, Pray4FameGa said:

Chromatica is extremely experimental.

Its just so high quality and polished that you can’t tell.

I think it’s Gaga’s best album.

I just think her whole persona lately of acting like she’s above music and she’s an advocate of all things overshadows it and is cringey tbh.

Just shut up and serve for once.

Sis she doesn't act like she's "above" music. Sigh.

[LilyLark 10,098]

9 minutes ago, Slappy said:

To be fair, none of her albums sound like the other.

 

Other than that I have to agree with you

LOL. I was like huh..but then...wait, that's kind of accurate. Joanne's more soft rock meets country with some poppy elements, but PI, Dancin In Circles, John Wayne are definitely straight up pop and Just Another Day sounds like an Elton John song. Joanne would have been way more cohesive imo if it had entirely been in the vibe of Diamond Heart, Sinner's Prayer, Joanne, Million Reasons, Grigio Girls, etc.

[Ziggy 11,789]

1 hour ago, Kimmo said:

Joanne was anything but a good album, the only good song was Million Reasons other than that it was a skip 

Plus you can’t compare Taylor to Gaga when it comes to writing. Taylor is a master at writing, her songs are very complex where Gaga is more repetitive. 

I would say *different* songwriters. Gaga's schtick is killer hooks and melodies. Taylor's is more storytelling lyricism. Those are the spaces they occupy in the pop music industry, basically. One's not better or worse, and both are great writers, but they just do *VERY* different things and write *VERY* differently. 

Even the closest comparison, which would be Yoü and I or TEOG (in terms of storytelling lyrics from Gaga), they are PACKED with hooks. Like I said, they just occupy different spaces.

[Ziggy 11,789]

36 minutes ago, Pray4FameGa said:

Chromatica is extremely experimental.

Its just so high quality and polished that you can’t tell.

I think it’s Gaga’s best album.

I just think her whole persona lately of acting like she’s above music and she’s an advocate of all things overshadows it and is cringey tbh.

Just shut up and serve for once.

Oh girl...Chromatica is VERY safe. It's great and I love it, but there is nothing remotely experimental about the music lmao like idk what music you listen to that you would call it that. I can think of a lot of words, great words, to describe Chromatica, but experimental would never come up lol This music is pretty straightforward stuff even if well done lol That was probably the point of the album: something that was good but not overly ambitious that might turn people off. It's a solid return to dance-pop, but let's not pretend it's more than what it is lol Sour Candy even samples the same beat as a million other dance-pop songs including Swish Swish. This is pretty standard gay bar/club music. Again, solid and pleasant, just not revolutionary or experimental.

[LilyLark 10,098]

18 minutes ago, Ziggy said:

Even the closest comparison, which would be Yoü and I or TEOG (in terms of storytelling lyrics from Gaga), they are PACKED with hooks. Like I said, they just occupy different spaces.

This. I think Tay's a stronger songwriter, but even if she wasn't...they occupy such different spaces it's impossible to compare.

 

12 minutes ago, Ziggy said:

Oh girl...Chromatica is VERY safe. It's great and I love it, but there is nothing remotely experimental about the music lmao like idk what music you listen to that you would call it that. I can think of a lot of words, great words, to describe Chromatica, but experimental would never come up lol This music is pretty straightforward stuff even if well done lol That was probably the point of the album: something that was good but not overly ambitious that might turn people off. It's a solid return to dance-pop, but let's not pretend it's more than what it is lol Sour Candy even samples the same beat as a million other dance-pop songs including Swish Swish. This is pretty standard gay bar/club music. Again, solid and pleasant, just not revolutionary or experimental.

Yep. It's 90s French House for the most part. Nothing wrong with not re-inventing the wheel. 911 is the only track I'd call experimental...well "parts" of Sine from Above, too, I guess. Rina is "arguably" experimental...but Twigs is the only big or semi-big name artist right now I can think of who is truly experimental. Just because something is not the most GP friendly/broadly mainstream doesn't necessarily equal "experimental" imo...music can appealing or mainstream to a particular type of audience (as in Chromatica's case, club/electronic/etc.).

I think Chromatica was made (and she's basically said it, too) to be played in the clubs...particularly the gay clubs. The sales were strong despite everything going on & the genre, but if it had come out in a COVID-19 free world I think it would have easily broken 300k (it wasn't that far off) because every club would be playing 911, Replay, and ROM.