LadariousGarage 1 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, LadariousGarage said: So this may be TOTAL misinformation and I may be mixing some stuff up with the Bosnian war, but didn't Serbia (at the time known as Yugoslavia, during the downfall of Communism) essentially wage ethnic cleansing against Kosovar Albanians from Kosovo? I don't know much about this whole situation, and I would love to learn more from people on both sides, but from what I heard Serbia did some pretty f*cked up sh*t to Albanians in Kosovo during the 90's (as well as Bosniak muslims in Bosnia and Herzegovina though that may be unrelated) I dunno, feel free to correct me if this is incorrect. I don't know much about the politics of the area. Okay so i'm looking into it more, and from what I HEARD (which may not be correct at all, I am not from the Balkans) but Kosovo is 95% Albanian Muslim, and Serbia is mostly orthodox, and when they tried for independence Serbia went in and waged Ethnic cleansing? so I feel like they have a good case for independence overall, AGAIN, I do not know much about this so correct me please. Lets do it baby I know the Law Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FameMonster01 7,071 Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 minute ago, LadariousGarage said: So this may be TOTAL misinformation and I may be mixing some stuff up with the Bosnian war, but didn't Serbia (at the time known as Yugoslavia, during the downfall of Communism) essentially wage ethnic cleansing against Kosovar Albanians from Kosovo? I don't know much about this whole situation, and I would love to learn more from people on both sides, but from what I heard Serbia did some pretty f*cked up sh*t to Albanians in Kosovo during the 90's (as well as Bosniak muslims in Bosnia and Herzegovina though that may be unrelated) I dunno, feel free to correct me if this is incorrect. I don't know much about the politics of the area. Yes it's true, but there's a story behind it all, and loong history. But the thing that you should know is that Serbs are always portrayed as monsters and the ones causing mess. I am Croatian, Serbs HAVE done crimes against my country, but we need to realize that there were multiple crimes commited against Serbians on Kosovo. Th armed forces of Kosovo also killed and raped serbian civillians, and destroyed a LOT of serbian orthodox churches. These churches were built before albanian settlement on Kosovo. Also, the government in Yugoslavia did everything they could to make it harder for Serbs living in Kosovo during Yugoslavia, to prevent ethnic Albanians on Kosovo to riot, but they eventually rioted. So as you can see, there are multiple sides to it, both are way too complex for a low educated popstar to come in the middle of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daylight Jokers 14,958 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Genuine question. Why did she even post about this in the first place? It felt like it just came out of nowhere. Is this issue currently big in Albania atm? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FameMonster01 7,071 Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 Just now, Daylight Jokers said: Genuin question. Why did she even post about this in the first place? It felt like it just came out of nowhere. Is this issue currently big in Albania atm? It's not, it's not even daily relevant in Serbia anymore. Dua has just been posting since forever, and especially lately, promoting Kosovo which Serbs didn't approve of, but most just shrugged their shoulders and move on. This though, affects more countries than just Serbia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daylight Jokers 14,958 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 minute ago, FameMonster01 said: It's not, it's not even daily relevant in Serbia anymore. Dua has just been posting since forever, and especially lately, promoting Kosovo which Serbs didn't approve of, but most just shrugged their shoulders and move on. This though, affects more countries than just Serbia I had no idea she's been posting about this for a long time now. I thought she just started yesterday that's why I thought it was very random. And didn't she spend most of her life in London anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FameMonster01 7,071 Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Daylight Jokers said: I had no idea she's been posting about this for a long time now. I thought she just started yesterday that's why I thought it was very random. And didn't she spend most of her life in London anyway? Exactly she's literally british by this point She, in my honest opinion, doesn't need to spread propaganda as her life doesn't depend on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werk 13,166 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 @FameMonster01 Someone said this on ATRL: "Her father is an old friend of Hague-convicted war criminal Kosovo president Hashim Thaci. She was probably thought to hate from an early age." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo 37,977 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Gurl 툭 까보면 어김없이 소리질러와 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FameMonster01 7,071 Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, Werk said: @FameMonster01 Someone said this on ATRL: "Her father is an old friend of Hague-convicted war criminal Kosovo president Hashim Thaci. She was probably thought to hate from an early age." Exactly, the hatred in the balkans is usually taught from the early age, she was no exception And to have the courage to promote these nationalist views .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem 17,800 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 2 hours ago, FameMonster01 said: This picture is used by far right albanian nationalists and is also representing views of fa*ism. Did you really censor the word facism? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem 17,800 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 OT: I'll never understand why Serbs care so much if Kosovo is their own country or not. If a part of Croatia wanted to be a seperate country, I literally wouldn't spend a second thinking about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,775 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Is she trying to ignite a new Yugoslav war or what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FameMonster01 7,071 Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hurem said: OT: I'll never understand why Serbs care so much if Kosovo is their own country or not. If a part of Croatia wanted to be a seperate country, I literally wouldn't spend a second thinking about it. I agree and I even wouldn't mind my region Dalmatia becoming it's own country sksksks But, this particular situation, isn't just about Kosovo, how come you don't get it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonky 668 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Hurem said: OT: I'll never understand why Serbs care so much if Kosovo is their own country or not. If a part of Croatia wanted to be a seperate country, I literally wouldn't spend a second thinking about it. Vučić im godinama truje mozak pitanjem o Kosovu ne bi li skrenuo pažnju s drugih problema i omogućio si još veću moć... Svejedno, ne shvaćam što i dalje imaju komplekse da svojataju cijeli Balkan - mi smo im pokatoličeni Srbi, Bošnjaci su turski Srbi (a Srbija bila turski pašaluk hahaha), Makedonci i Crnogorci južni Srbi... Dok ne sazriju u tom smislu, neće ni napredovati, nije ni čudo da su na ekonomskom i društvenom začelju Europe lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 2 hours ago, FameMonster01 said: I am from the balkans ( where Albania is) and let me tell you, most of these countries only have a small minority of albanians living there, most of Albanians living on the land of Serbia, for example, came during the turkish/ottoman invasion 500 years ago. I would not call them the natives if they were only living in Serbia since 500 years ago, since Serbia has a way greater history than 500 years ago! Also Croats and Serbs are native people of Bosnia, yet it is forbidden to claim Bosnia as their " land". My point is, it's a veeery complex issue and she made a grave mistake spreading propaganda. She really shouldn't have touched into this topic Albanians are not Turkish people. They are people who lived there long before and only changed their religion when Ottomans came to Balkan. Claiming they are Turkish people who came to Balkan 500 years ago is nonsense. As for Kosovo huge majority of people who live on Kosovo claim Serbia is not their country and that their country is Kosovo. And their opinion is the only one that matters. I don’t know why you mentioned Bosnia but same goes for Bosnia. Bosniaks are HUGE majority in Bosnia and they lived there for thousands of years and only changed their religion when Ottomans came. They were Bogomils before. People who identify as Bosniaks make huge majority of 50%, Serbs less than 30% and Croats less then 15% yet they somehow want to claim it as their own which is nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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