Dua Lipa posts about Albania

[dit 46,482]

4 minutes ago, FameMonster01 said:

Sure will do! Thank you for being so reasonable! I am really trying to negotiate between the two parts, personally I am not pro Kosovo, but it's for the people of Kosovo to decide, yet I want to clarify of how wrong Dua was. So thank you for being reasonable enough! 

thank you so much! it is so rare to come across people who are willing to discuss things in such a mature and fair way. I love your balanced point of view  

[FentyGa 14,340]

im gonna take it this way bc i like her lol

[FameMonster01 7,071]

2 minutes ago, dit said:

thank you so much! it is so rare to come across people who are willing to discuss things in such a mature and fair way. I love your balanced point of view  

Samee! If you were discussing this with local balkan people, this discussion wouldn't be a discussion, but more of bunch of insults coming from both sides, and it tends to get real messy

[FameMonster01 7,071]

1 minute ago, FentyGa said:

im gonna take it this way bc i like her lol

There are other ways to do this though. Serbs and Croats could've easily used this tactics as both ethnic groups survived multiple genocides against them.. So this is just wrong, but it's up to you if you still want to like her

[Hurem 17,800]

13 minutes ago, FameMonster01 said:

personally I am not pro Kosovo

Can you elaborate why? I’m genuinely interested why people are against Kosovo being seperate from Serbia?

[FameMonster01 7,071]

Just now, Hurem said:

Can you elaborate why? I’m genuinely interested why people are against Kosovo being seperate from Serbia?

Firstly I just wanna say that I'm fine with Kosovo being independent because the majority are now Albanians. But personally I'm not in favor of it for multiple reasons.

1)  Kosovo has been tied with Serbian culture since late 1090's, in the period of 1090 until 1380 a lot of Serbian Orthodox churches were built, and the region was considered like Serbian " Holy See". The region was also place to 1389 battle of Kosovo that played a big role as Serbs lost it to ottomans. But even tho Kosovo was lost then, it still had majority of ethnic Serbs living in that  area which leads me to the second reason

2) Population of Kosovo has since 1100's always been Serbs as the majority, until 1800's  and balkan wars when multiple massacres were committed over the Serb population

Anyhow, Serbs on Kosovo in 20th century still existed in bigger number than today, (25-20%) and of course still had strong ties to Serbia as it spent the whole Yugoslavia as a part of Serbia

So it's no wonder that Serbs grieve Kosovo, they have strong cultural ties to it

It's kind of like if Italy claimed Dalmatia as theirs, while Dalmatia is literally cradle of Croats and plays an important role to us ( Croats)

But basically that's just why I would personally prefer Kosovo to be a part of Serbia, as it's been slavic for very much of its existence on the maps, but then again I'm fine with the current situation, I don't have a say

[27monster27 13,171]

As someone with Serbian in there background:

Let's please not try to start flame wars over this. It is not worth it to argue over this topic. Like with what Sam Street said in the Tweet that @FameMonster01 posted, try to be more about peace and coexistence with this please.

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This is gonna be messy.

[Fantina 3,357]

This is a very tough topic to discuss as I don't have any info on what really happened. Being from Serbia It would be easy for me to just jump on the hate bandwagon and start pointing fingers but i seriously don't know. Most of this is caused by shitty politicians who force propaganda in both ways and accuse each other of war crimes. I was neither alive when this happened so I can't confirm or deny this. 

I loved Dua's music and I usually put artist's political views aside but in this case this is just adding fuel to the fire. She is doing what some politicians are. I really want to learn what actually happened and I always run into contradicting statements from both sides. 

[raragaga 8,119]

i have no information

[gag 22,449]

No opinion on the actual situation but I think this is interesting AF. We always expect popstars to be neoliberals because the internet zeitgeist is really US-centric, so going against Trump has never been a controversial take (this is part of why it felt strange that Taylor Swift treated her political opinion like an album drop but I digress).

Now, however, popstars cropping up globally means there's a chance to have extremely controversial views because the political situation around the world is a lot messier (less black and white) than the US. It's almost as if political discourse needs to be more nuanced and that is seldom attainable on social media.

[VenusUrania 675]

If Serbia doesn't want to lose Kosovo, then they should've taken better care of them. It's not only a question of different nationalities, ethnicities, minorities, culture and history but also the economy.

If you look at Kosovo as part of Serbia or even as an independet state, they're one of the poorest and underdeveloped regions in Europe, so it's understandable that they want to have their own government and policies to take the matters in their own hand.

I agree with the fact that she shouldn't have posted the picture of Great Albania as means of national pride because it does send nationalistic, far right and even fascists messages to the international community. Similar flags exist for Great Serbia, Great Hungary etc. who also claim "historic" terrritories from other sovereign modern stated on accounts of historic presence of the concerned people.

Every nation has its right to become sovereign which numerous international treaties and acts confirm. The only question is what are the motivations behind it and how it's going to get executed to bring and maintain peace in the region.

[notconfident 291]

As a fellow Serbian, I try my best not to be biased against her, but I have lost all interest to listening to any more material by an artist who promotes terrorism against my own family. 

[FameMonster01 7,071]

12 minutes ago, VenusUrania said:

If Serbia doesn't want to lose Kosovo, then they should've taken better care of them. It's not only a question of different nationalities, ethnicities, minorities, culture and history but also the economy.

If you look at Kosovo as part of Serbia or even as an independet state, they're one of the poorest and underdeveloped regions in Europe, so it's understandable that they want to have their own government and policies to take the matters in their own hand.

I agree with the fact that she shouldn't have posted the picture of Great Albania as means of national pride because it does send nationalistic, far right and even fascists messages to the international community. Similar flags exist for Great Serbia, Great Hungary etc. who also claim "historic" terrritories from other sovereign modern stated on accounts of historic presence of the concerned people.

Every nation has its right to become sovereign which numerous international treaties and acts confirm. The only question is what are the motivations behind it and how it's going to get executed to bring and maintain peace in the region.

I agree with most of your points and yes you're right. A lot of balkan countries have these * greater maps of its country*. Imagine what would happen if everyone began posting like that? If everyone thought that way? If every public figure promoted that way of thinking? There WOULD be wars

 

[FameMonster01 7,071]

14 minutes ago, notconfident said:

As a fellow Serbian, I try my best not to be biased against her, but I have lost all interest to listening to any more material by an artist who promotes terrorism against my own family. 

I'm not a Serb but I am upset about it because, she could easily claim Croatia next