Charts Discussion

[MANiCURE1295 8,673]

10 minutes ago, Kimblue said:

A gain, you love to see it.

Hopefully a gain on Spotify too!!! 

[Artur 12,419]

Stabilizing at +1M daily would be a dream! 911 deserves 1B views but I am fine with 100M

[JustJames 950]

4 hours ago, Noir said:

Do you think they’re testing 911 with mainland Europe before making it a single in bigger markets? Hmmm

The promo needed for a single to succeed / boost album sales in the digital era can't be scaled to test like this. It isn't sensible/effective to 1) film an EU-only MV, 2) tour EU Radio stations, 3) perform on prominent EU shows, and if 911 does well, A. expect US/UK audiences were isolated so you can measure/repeat baseline>peak impact from the same content, OR B. produce new/equally engaging content.

911 MV impact was felt WW thanks to the Internet/virality of quality content. If 911 is going to be a single in a territory, the time to release it was last week, when performance spiked across the globe. What can be learned via Italian Radio worth throwing away MV/song streams + sales? Not only will those sales/streams never again be counted, even larger #s were lost by not directing ads/links/PR to iTunes/physical sales, merch, playlists, etc. or being added to US Radio.

Post-album singles aren't easy; labels would kill for a head-start like the MV hype could've given 911. Do you think Watermelon Sugar would've smashed/Dua's team would sit on such hype without:
1. PR re: the status / release of the song as an Official Single.
2. US Top 40 Radio add date.
3. iTunes Single + Physical/bundled Singles + Merch.
4. YouTube video cards, end-caps, and links to: 911 (Official Single) YT Audio, 911 (Official Single) iTunes DL, 911 (Official Single) Merch.
5. YT, Instagram, etc. ads driving to ^ and curated playlists on Spotify, etc.

Seeing another song/Chromatica increase on Spotify is great. But, a 4th song above >350k/day from an album with a Top 10 debut week on Spotify, 2 Top 5 US singles, 275k debut sales, etc. from a global star shouldn't be a huge win. As said repeatedly, showing her face/shining light on the album this summer would've done as much. A typical rollout (PR, Radio, iTunes/Physical Single, Merch) for 911 would've led to ~1M peak in streams week 1 after the MV reception (+sales+airplay = BB100 debut/2-3 wk run).

[lilmonster2424 1,730]

8 hours ago, n1kos said:

 

Can't wait for them to FINALLY release the vinyl with the actual cover and maybe the rerelease EP to snatch that #3 

[franminervini 16,893]

Guys i know this is off topic but look at what I found this morning at my airport, i went crazy  *sorry if the picture is flipped, I don't know why it does it when I upload it*

 

Due to COVID there weren't any samples so I couldn't smell it 

[TheArcher 1,132]

US Album Sales Week 37 

Rank - Estimated 2020 Sales - TITLE - Artist

1. 888,000 - FOLKLORE by Taylor Swift

2. 610,000 - MAP OF THE SOUL: 7 by BTS 

3. 432,000 - AFTER HOURS by The Weeknd

4. 300,000 - CHROMATICA by Lady Gaga

5. 278,000 - Manic by Halsey

6. 275,000 - LEGENDS NEVER DIE by Juice WRLD

7. 262,000 - HERE AND NOW by Kenny Chesney

8. 243,000 - NEO ZONE: THE 2ND ALBUM by NCT 127

9. 241,000 - WHEN WE ALL FALL ASLEEP WHERE DO WE GO by Billie Eilish (916,000 total) 

10. 237,000 - MUSIC TO BE MURDERED BY Eminen

11. 233,000 - FINE LINE by Harry Styles (691,000 total) 

12. 195,000 - CHANGES by Justin Bieber 

[JustJames 950]

1 hour ago, TEANUS said:

Which I’m obviously looking forward to but it’s just disappointing when G.U.Y. even debuted on the H100 on its video release week 

But it IS only week 1 (and we got a FIRE video) so I’m not meltdowning at all, but it just would’ve been very easy to make it debut lol

I completely agree it was a wasted opportunity to get 911 to Chart for at least 1 week, which would've provided press and exposure on its own to contribute to the growth/stability of it across platforms. Simply linking to an official iTunes single in the YT description, and driving video cards + end-caps to 911 Audio (ignoring the impact: announcing it as an official single, adds on Radio, selling physical copies+merch, and curating playlists w/ CII+911 would've had) probably would've done enough. 

However, 2020 Charts are a different beast than in 2013/14. Streaming had just begun to impact calculations, and I don't believe things like weighting for paid/unpaid, etc., had yet been accounted for. Lady Gaga was a HUGE name, regardless of the narrative re: that era, and the G.U.Y. MV premier was a major event/generated a massive # of views. Dope charted at #8 from streams alone earlier that era (leaving aside the validity). I don't know how its points were achieved the week it charted, but G.U.Y. also received SOME airplay thanks to Gaga's own Radio tour (wasn't serviced by Interscope), unlike 911 (0 AI). 

[Hybrid AT 78]

4 hours ago, corvus albus said:

911 got added to 5 big playlists today:

Trending Tracks 315K at #2

Get Popped 232K at #23

Hits Don't Lie 189K at #20

Get Your Hits Together 174K at #8

Pop Rising Philippines 132K at #3

You're so behind on GGD

If you want more relevant info you might as well copy posts from Popa911

They were all mentioned before me by @Harry Kat which is why I didn't I – 

And it's possible that people can track songs and albums independently from publicly available websites without feeling the need to "copy" posts from an obscure forum filled with banned or ex-members...from another forum. If you feel frustrated, voice your frustrations at the Admin, not at other members who are still somehow trying to keep this thread alive and running because some of y'all willingly left and abandoned this place after the ban spree in July. And think twice again before posting such condescending nonsense 

Yeah some of y'all are chart veterans and your contributions over the years cannot be ignored but you really don't have to go out of your way to put other members down who still make a genuine effort to keep this thread going just because you feel your space was jeopardized. Move on already instead of trying to stir drama related to the past and have fun at your new "forum" 

[pop ate my heart 2,865]

sooo this slow, 'testing its potential' single rollout for 911 is not effective after all?  i thought we were getting somewhere after they put it on Pop Rising, but it's not having anything bigger than that huh?

[TEANUS 15,001]

23 minutes ago, JustJames said:

I completely agree it was a wasted opportunity to get 911 to Chart for at least 1 week, which would've provided press and exposure on its own to contribute to the growth/stability of it across platforms. Simply linking to an official iTunes single in the YT description, and driving video cards + end-caps to 911 Audio (ignoring the impact: announcing it as an official single, adds on Radio, selling physical copies+merch, and curating playlists w/ CII+911 would've had) probably would've done enough. 

However, 2020 Charts are a different beast than in 2013/14. Streaming had just begun to impact calculations, and I don't believe things like weighting for paid/unpaid, etc., had yet been accounted for. Lady Gaga was a HUGE name, regardless of the narrative re: that era, and the G.U.Y. MV premier was a major event/generated a massive # of views. Dope charted at #8 from streams alone earlier that era (leaving aside the validity). I don't know how its points were achieved the week it charted, but G.U.Y. also received SOME airplay thanks to Gaga's own Radio tour (wasn't serviced by Interscope), unlike 911 (0 AI). 

G.U.Y. debuted with 2 million US streams on the Hot 100 after its first full week of video streaming (it was released on Saturday while the streaming tracking week used to end on Sunday/ begin on Monday). 911 is sure to have much more streams to debut with given its Spotify streams are exponentially higher than G.U.Y.’s and it’s video views from the first week are slightly higher, BUT, like you said, streaming as a whole has increased dramatically, so that’s why more streams than 2014 aren’t enough to debut today. G.U.Y. was also nonexistent on radio it’s video release week, but it have like 6,000 sales also, which if 911 had had this week it would’ve easily debuted. 

So basically, as we already know, the literally only other thing that they would’ve needed to do to make it debut would’ve been physical singles/ merch

[ArtGagaPop 61,940]

11 minutes ago, BadGurlMadge said:

Where is it expected to chart tomorrow when lots of European countries releases their charts? in Sweden i saw a prediction of 42

where did you see that, it's not even top 200 

[MANiCURE1295 8,673]

Chromatica Era on YT

Stupid Love (Video) - 118M

Rain On Me (Video) - 220M

Sour Candy (Audio + Lyric) - 98M

911 (Video) - 19M

Total - 455M

 

 

[Hybrid AT 78]

1 minute ago, MANiCURE1295 said:

Chromatica Era on YT

Stupid Love (Video) - 118M

Rain On Me (Video) - 220M

Sour Candy (Audio + Lyric) - 98M

911 (Video) - 19M

Total - 455M

SC, a SMASH waiting to happen. Hope Gaga and her team can give it a full single treatment soon.

[MANiCURE1295 8,673]

Just now, HybridAT said:

SC, a SMASH waiting to happen. Hope Gaga and her team can give it a full single treatment soon.

Yeah, did it ever get confirmed of SC is also on the new BP album coming? If so we might get a MV, I’m hesitant though. I hope youre right though and Gaga’s team gets a MV for it 

[Hybrid AT 78]

Just now, MANiCURE1295 said:

Yeah, did it ever get confirmed of SC is also on the new BP album coming? If so we might get a MV, I’m hesitant though. I hope youre right though and Gaga’s team gets a MV for it 

I think somebody posted images of their album CD and it didn't have SC on it so it most probably is not on their album.

Some people suggested that because BP was in NY they might have shot a video together but I doubt it.