What conversation is GGD not ready for?

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Just now, xoxo Craig said:

Give me one example in modern day music that sounds like Chromatica? 

I can’t give you a modern day example, but I can give you 2015-2016 examples 

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7 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said:

Do you actually think the label forced her to put a dance record out? They didn't   

Chromatica is the most Gaga album, its not a 'farewell' album like someone else said... Chromatica feels like the most authentic album Gaga has ever done. She clearly WANTED to do this album, not something to pacify her fans. She's never been that artist to do what her fans want

Not to mention Joanne’s sound literally restored her good public image, and she went on to make country/rock ASIB which f*cking smashed and rocketed her to legend status. And pop music isn’t even that popular right now.

Why would her label force her to do a pop album considering all of that? I’m sure they had some say along the lines of “don’t do another ARTPOP” that contributed to Chromatica being pretty “safe” sonically relative to BTW and AP. But I think if Gaga didn’t want to make a pop record, she wouldn’t be forced to. 

Yes she’s grown as an artist, but I don’t think that suddenly means she lost her passion for dance/electronic music. Like of course part of it was “my fans will love this and it will make them happy!” but I don’t think we need to go the extreme and say she only did it for us and hated it otherwise.

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18 minutes ago, gagasicebath said:

I didn’t mean it quite like they forced her, but I do think she knew people really wanted a pop/dance album from her this time around and that may (or may not) influenced the direction she took.

(I like your mask, by the way!)

 

The fans are ALWAYS begging for a pop/EDM record from gay icons. Literally. Just because she did do a dance record this time around (but very different to how she did before, and its a different type of dance record), it doesn't mean she gave into fans. If she did that, there would be The Fame Monster part 2 or another BTW, or another 80s album. 

Gaga has always been influenced by dance music in one way or another. Even on Joanne, Dancin In Circles and John Wayne are more 'dance' than anything on that record. Her career has been built on Dance music, pop music, and Jazz. So it was absolutely obvious that at some point in time, she was gonna go back to the dance floor that she fought for. Especially after ARTPOP which wasn't executing everything she wanted, and Joanne which didn't heal her father, a return to the dance roots (to me) was inevitable. 

I don't think she takes influence from fans as to what music to make. She said she doesn't want to be that type of artist who is part of the system... so I'm pretty sure that Chromatica, even though being dance, has nothing to do with fans wanting her to go a dance route and her giving in. This is her putting her all in and doing what she wants

Edit: Thank you for saying that about my mask! Its important to wear one, and why not make it more comfortable or stylish?

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7 minutes ago, Jose P said:

I can’t give you a modern day example, but I can give you 2015-2016 examples 

Theres literally nothing from 2015/16 that sounds like Chromatica 

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Xenophobia 

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9 minutes ago, Jose P said:

I can’t give you a modern day example, but I can give you 2015-2016 examples 

First time I listened to Sine From Above I was like “wow this is PEAK 2013 edm” and then we find out Axwell started it in 2013 

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Just now, blankpaper said:

First time I listened to Sine From Above I was like “wow this is PEAK 2013 edm” and then we find out Axwell started it in 2013 

Okay that would literally be the only exception on Chromatica that you could say sounds a little dated... but one out 18 tracks, 15 main tracks?   calling it "not ambitious or unique" is a huge reach

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The fact that it makes Gaga feel very disingenuous when Gaga trieds to tie literally every single thing she ever does to her childhood passions and "kindness", and then when she's done with them she promptly forgets about them 

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People here lmaoing me when deep dowm they know imma truth teller 

[Seeka 12,372]

That Gaga is a real person who can change and drop things because she doesn't feel it's a part of her current identity. 

That Gaga is mentally ill, which means she is no longer neurotypical, which means she cannot go about doing things as a normal person. 

That we do not have a patron and artist situation with Gaga. We have a customer and product relationship with Gaga. She owes us nothing. If you bought something, that's as far as it needs to go. Gaga does not have to do things for us. 

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1 hour ago, RichAssPiss said:

Gaga has outgrown her audience. Chromatica is the first of her albums that feels like a concession. Taking her personal lyrics and giving them a glossy house music coating when really she'd rather keep digging into her own emotions and making honest music. But Joanne was not what people wanted. People begged her to be "weird." Enigma and Chromatica are like Gaga cosplaying as herself to please fans. 

the same thing can be said about Joanne, asib. Gaga cosplaying as a "stripped down" singer to please gp friendly audiences.

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Floppy 

[Allan 3,881]

That this site wasn't meant to be a popularity contest between users. And, honestly, this site could be much bigger in terms of variety of content and depth, but we keep being obsessed to the same artists.