Ethicality: Eradicating Homosexuality through Genetic Engineering

[AsleepOnTheCeiling 6,489]

4 minutes ago, anuanu said:

Honestly I have not read all of the comments in this thread super in depth, but I would be cautious about using the word causal. As people have mentioned, it is mostly accepted there is no "gay gene." A few genome-wide studies have identified markers associated with sexual identity but you can't determine causality from those studies. 

Please correct me if I'm wrong because I am not really up on experimental research.

You're probably right, a more appropriate term would have been correlation. 

[anonanon 932]

To speak to whether or not it's ethical... I agree with @Franz Ferdinand regarding the infeasibility of CRISPR and they obviously know more about it than me.

Something like embryo selection using polygenic risk scores might be more realistic, but even that I don't really agree with at this time.

Edited to add that when I say I don't agree with using polygenic risk scores for embryo selection I mean in general, including (but not only) in the context of sexuality.

[HausOfAntonio 8,021]

Its simply not acceptable because of the implications it has for existing homosexuals. It basically frames being gay to the general public as something to be corrected, or undesirable from a biological standpoint. It completely invalidates the existence of homosexuals living on Earth right now. 

[HausOfAntonio 8,021]

1 hour ago, TimisaMonster said:

Eradicating ALL homosexuality would increase population rates at a phenomenal rate and we would not be able to support all those people and the planet would basically be exhausted of resources and the Earth would die

Not that evolution finds there to be anything wrong with homosexuality otherwise all these other species would not engage is such activity...

It literally is not hurting anyone...the only people who would even want to have something like this done is the people who are extremely religious or the self hating closeted gays...

I’m personally skeptical of how we term and define overpopulation and its issues. In truth, overpopulation wouldn’t be a thing if our political, social and economical systems allowed for sustainable, equitable and moderate use of resources. Many times overpopulation is used to justify upholding these systems (capitalism) that simply do not work. 

[audrey horne 1,180]

The « homosexual gene » doesn’t even exists according to other studies. Just a reminder, genetic research is also a lucrative industry working for private interests and you will always find dumb humans willing to try anything in exchange of good money. I would be interested to know who finance those researchs and what they stand for.

Because it’s funny how your sources took into consideration homosexuality as the element that could be in need to be fixed when (from a social pov) it rather be heteropatriarchy since it is the basis for every social issues on this planet. 

So why working on consequences created by a failing society when we could concentrate on its causes? Using genetic science to solve societal issues makes zero sense to me. It’s not only unethical, it’s a false and vain solution to a fabricated « problem ».

[GGDisbetter 2,187]

maam the world is overpopulated

[HausOfAntonio 8,021]

14 minutes ago, adterp said:

The « homosexual gene » doesn’t even exists according to other studies. Just a reminder, genetic research is also a lucrative industry working for private interests and you will always find dumb humans willing to try anything in exchange of good money. I would be interested to know who finance those researchs and what they stand for.

Because it’s funny how your sources took into consideration homosexuality as the element that could be in need to be fixed when (from a social pov) it rather be heteropatriarchy since it is the basis for every social issues on this planet. 

So why working on consequences created by a failing society when we could concentrate on its causes? Using genetic science to solve societal issues makes zero sense to me. It’s not only unethical, it’s a false and vain solution to a fabricated « problem ».

Imagine curing heteropatriarchy 

[Franz Ferdinand 2,359]

Just now, HausOfAntonio said:

Imagine curing heteropatriarchy 

If only it were as simple as gene editing. 

[Wet Fire 7,825]

I think such genetic engineering would be "ethical" only when homosexuality doesn't remain such a politically personal debate regarding individual freedom, privacy and dignity anymore. Because we are in a social era when doing anything to "eradicate" homosexuality (no matter what the intent is) would only reinforce the idea of it being something to be "cured".

[audrey horne 1,180]

2 minutes ago, HausOfAntonio said:

Imagine curing heteropatriarchy 

ikr. alas they have all the money and power so I guess we better cure homosexuality since one life model only is allowed and promoted here. 

[AsleepOnTheCeiling 6,489]

44 minutes ago, HausOfAntonio said:

I’m personally skeptical of how we term and define overpopulation and its issues. In truth, overpopulation wouldn’t be a thing if our political, social and economical systems allowed for sustainable, equitable and moderate use of resources. Many times overpopulation is used to justify upholding these systems (capitalism) that simply do not work. 

I think they might be talking about the food chain, our unsustainable meat consumption, and deforestation.