BenG 19,908 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 My theory is that streaming from the playlist does nothing for the song's playlist position. Streaming outside the playlist makes it go higher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, dit said: that's not always the case for artists like Ari though. We've all seen a lot of Ariana's songs be automatically placed at the top 5 of many playlists and not budge an inch for a long time. This is why they are acting like this especially when the song is smashing right out of the gates like ROM. They are expecting it to remain top 5 in a lot of the major playlists for most of it's run right out of the gate. That's only because Ariana has been putting out massive hits recently. Of course "7 rings" would get better playlist positions than "I'll Never Love Again." "Rain On Me" was #1 on TTH the second it came out and is still #6 a month later despite almost having dropped out of the top 10. If anything, it should be lower. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteo Remondi 20,227 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 POP is like +0.45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCureinMalibu 45,913 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 HAC: Spins: 3057 (+70) Audience: 15.099 (+0.629) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Gg 12,985 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Just now, Admin said: That's only because Ariana has been putting out massive hits recently. Of course "7 rings" would get better playlist positions than "I'll Never Love Again." "Rain On Me" was #1 on TTH the second it came out and is still #6 a month later despite almost having dropped out of the top 10. If anything, it should be lower. It should not be lower Spotify doesn't base data on BB charts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 I'm just tired of this "Gaga's team/label aren't good" narrative. Gaga literally shares a marketing director (and like half of her team) with Billie Eilish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Gg 12,985 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Just now, TheCureinMalibu said: HAC: Spins: 3057 (+70) Audience: 15.099 (+0.629) HAC the supreme Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCureinMalibu 45,913 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Pop: Spins: 8218 (+108) Audience: 36.096 (+0.445) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Gg 12,985 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Admin said: I'm just tired of this "Gaga's team/label aren't good" narrative. Gaga literally shares a marketing director (and like half of her team) with Billie Eilish. Yea that's a **** narrative though Who would believe Gaga's team is incompetent? I do believe that Interscope has a better relationship with Apple than with Spotify Republic also has a better relationship with radio stations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCureinMalibu 45,913 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Pop: Don't Start Now: -137 spins / -1.262m Toosie Roll: -329 spins / -1.208m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Gg 12,985 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Just now, TheCureinMalibu said: Pop: Don't Start Now: -137 spins / -1.262m Toosie Roll: -329 spins / -1.208m Not falling fast enough but we'll take it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 minute ago, JR Gg said: It should not be lower Spotify doesn't base data on BB charts I'm not saying it should mirror the Hot 100, but Rain On Me is not a massive hit yet. "Savage" is a monster smash, and it's 1 spot lower. All I'm saying is that Rain On Me's playlist positions are great and Twitter stans have no idea what they are talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dit 46,353 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Admin said: That's only because Ariana has been putting out massive hits recently. Of course "7 rings" would get better playlist positions than "I'll Never Love Again." "Rain On Me" was #1 on TTH the second it came out and is still #6 a month later despite almost having dropped out of the top 10. If anything, it should be lower. of course. I don't think I hinted anywhere that we should expect Gaga's songs to slay playlisting right off the bat compared to someone like Ari. In my opinion ROM's playlisting is actually amazing and as I already stated is her best playlisting ever. I'm just trying to find an explanation for why Arianators on twitter have been complaining and a lot of that is in fact as I stated (and as you are agreeing with); because Ari has had fantastic playlisting where her songs debut top 5 in most big playlists and stay there for a lonnnggg time before being shuffled down a few spots and then going back at the top 5 etc...obviously its because her songs are massive streaming hits. But the point is the Arianators may expect the same for ROM because it did so well from the start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Gg 12,985 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Just now, Admin said: I'm not saying it should mirror the Hot 100, but Rain On Me is not a massive hit yet. "Savage" is a monster smash, and it's 1 spot lower. All I'm saying is that Rain On Me's playlist positions are great and Twitter stans have no idea what they are talking about. Rain On Me's playlist positions aren't great But some stans definitely have no idea what they're talking about Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Guy 09 13,941 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Admin said: "Rain On Me" was #1 on TTH the second it came out and is still #6 a month later despite almost having dropped out of the top 10. If anything, it should be lower. No it shouldn't be lower on TTHs that's a global playlist, ROM not being top 10 on US Spotify doesn't matter because its stayed glued to #4 WW for weeks now... The TTHs position is right for ROM Spotify gives you the initial chance and if you continue to fall you go down the corresponding playlist - you have to stay stable whether that's at 4m streams everyday or 2m When Sour Candy kept getting moved down TTHs, it was cause it was falling everyday, not the other way round. I'd expect ROM to get good positions later on... the song proves itself first, then is able to get a boost. It only entered top 10 on HHUK last week after spending days at #2 on UK Spotify Stare at the Chartster in the mirror they talk to me too. #StreamFunTonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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