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historically a successful revolution has required only 3.7% of the total population (on average) to protest/riot. 

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GregJA

Defunding the police 

restructuring the police

making something different 

LOL y’all really are working overtime to re-elect Trump :ladyhaha:

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Buddy

The Mayor of Minneapolis has been one of the better ones as far as supporting protesters go. They should be saving that energy for their sociopathic governor who has been beefing with him for doing too much to appease them. 

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Buddy
2 hours ago, GregJA said:

Defunding the police 

restructuring the police

making something different 

LOL y’all really are working overtime to re-elect Trump :ladyhaha:

The better statement would be "reform police."

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PartySick
3 hours ago, CautiousLurker said:

That's not what defunding the police means - very few actually want to do away with the ENTIRE police force, but people do want the police budget to be cut drastically because it is ENORMOUS and that money will be better spent elsewhere... Also picking better people and doing away with racial profiling is not nearly enough - the whole mentality around the job of being a cop needs to change, they need to be re-trained, and so on and so forth

Ok good 'cause I was confused as to why anyone would think having no police would be a good idea but I was worried about expressing that thought :green:

The US is notorious for a grossly overinflated military. I guess it makes sense that the powers that be want a matching set on the domestic front to enforce the law.

Which is, of course, ridiculous :enigma:

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Serial Chiller
2 hours ago, SMILE2NE1 said:

You’ll just leave this here and what? 

Are you saying there are more white deaths a ccording to that statistics? 

You do realize that black population is minority yet their number of deaths from police is close to that of white? 

Not sure of your point.

 

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HeavyPunkLover

Let me understand what mean “defunding the police”?

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SMILE2NE1
1 hour ago, Serial Chiller said:

You’ll just leave this here and what? 

Are you saying there are more white deaths a ccording to that statistics? 

You do realize that black population is minority yet their number of deaths from police is close to that of white? 

Not sure of your point.

 

Firstly, I am against any form of racism and I agree that racist institutions with racism harboured should have resources shifted. The death of George was absolutely a crime and should not be tolerated. I'm also a stats guy and would like to highlight the stats you mentioned are not useful unless you normalise them. 

White Americans account for 70% of the population, but account for 46.5% of homicides. So for every white American there are 0.66 homicides in the USA. For this contribution rate, 1398 white Americans (40.8% of country total) were killed by police from 2017 to 2020.
RESULT: White Americans commit 46.5% of homicides and account for 40.8% of all deaths by police.

Black Americans account for 13% of the population, but account for 50.4% of homicides. So for every black American there are 3.87 homicides in the USA. For this contribution rate, 755 black Americans (22.1% of country total) were killed by police from 2017 to 2020.
RESULT: Black Americans commit 50.4% of homicides and account for 22.1% of all deaths by police.

COMPARISON:
There are 5.86 times more homicides committed for every 1 black American than every 1 white American. And to the point you mentioned, yes it is terrible that black Americans accounting for 13% of population account for 22.1% of police caused deaths, but in any particular homicide incident, a white American is 2.0009 times more likely to be killed by the police than their black American counterpart.

Again, I'm not arguing that there isn't broader systemic racism, I am just pointing out the numbers per incident of engagement with police.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-43

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StarstruckIllusion

Unrelated but like... whew :v:

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Tycho

Also just leaving this here since google doesn't seem to be working for some.

Since when is Tom Holland a mayor? :laughga: 

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Fair play to her wanting to cut through his crap and get to the point.

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SMILE2NE1

When you don't have an intellectual argument (or lack an academic background) so you just :cryga: @SerialChiller. Yes, your intentions are good, but be informed. Antivaxxers think they have good intentions too.

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Serial Chiller
13 hours ago, SMILE2NE1 said:

When you don't have an intellectual argument (or lack an academic background) so you just :cryga: @SerialChiller. Yes, your intentions are good, but be informed. Antivaxxers think they have good intentions too.

Yawn... Don’t you have an All Lives Matter protest to go to? 

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SMILE2NE1
12 hours ago, Serial Chiller said:

Yawn... Don’t you have an All Lives Matter protest to go to? 

Nope. If you actually cared about black lives and had some intellectual autonomy for yourself you might actually educate yourself and look into the deeper issues that affect the black community as a whole instead of impeding discussion like fake woke SJWs tend to do for clout by painting anyone with a second opinion as the enemy/hateful. I actually care and am not just pretending like you and it only takes anyone with critical thinking skills 5 minutes and a phone to discover that black deaths by police are less than 1% of black deaths and 94% results from black on black crime. Someone who cares and who has any experience in decision-making might think it would be the more helpful thing to tackle whatever is causing that 94% (and also tackle the 1% too from any systematic police racism but with consideration that that's not the area where the community is most in need)

I'm a liberal and you're everything that's wrong with us. Your idea of contributing valuable ideas is changing your display picture and repeating any trending catchphrase on social media that you hardly understand while simultaneously posturing as a righteous SJW but without care and thoughtfulness about how to genuinely help a disadvantaged community. I'll give you the benefit of that doubt that you don't actually have bad intentions, but rather it's your simple mindedness that causes you to react like a socially challenged child whenever someone's viewpoint isn't 100% in line with your "perspective" (or lack thereof).

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Serial Chiller
3 hours ago, SMILE2NE1 said:

Nope. If you actually cared about black lives and had some intellectual autonomy for yourself you might actually educate yourself and look into the deeper issues that affect the black community as a whole instead of impeding discussion like fake woke SJWs tend to do for clout by painting anyone with a second opinion as the enemy/hateful. I actually care and am not just pretending like you and it only takes anyone with critical thinking skills 5 minutes and a phone to discover that black deaths by police are less than 1% of black deaths and 94% results from black on black crime. Someone who cares and who has any experience in decision-making might think it would be the more helpful thing to tackle whatever is causing that 94% (and also tackle the 1% too from any systematic police racism but with consideration that that's not the area where the community is most in need)

I'm a liberal and you're everything that's wrong with us. Your idea of contributing valuable ideas is changing your display picture and repeating any trending catchphrase on social media that you hardly understand while simultaneously posturing as a righteous SJW but without care and thoughtfulness about how to genuinely help a disadvantaged community. I'll give you the benefit of that doubt that you don't actually have bad intentions, but rather it's your simple mindedness that causes you to react like a socially challenged child whenever someone's viewpoint isn't 100% in line with your "perspective" (or lack thereof).

Disgusting take but what can you expect from someone who thinks police brutality isn't an issue because statistics show black people commit more crime but police kill less of them compare to white people. Hurr durr.

Being killed is the worst but not the only thing black men suffer from police. Mass incarceration and jacked up sentences that ruin people's lives, keeping them forever destitute and their children barred from any meaningful opportunities. 

When the situation people are raging over is police brutality and systemic racism within law enforcement, you waltz in here and say 'eh, not such a big problem' Focus on other bigger problems. Seriously, go F yourself. (WP me whatever mods, I don't care) 

Here's an idea. How about we listen to ACTUAL black people, hundreds of thousands of them, who are screaming out there for justice, and not take **** from you? Maybe try not to rip them off their agency for once? 

Also I'm not a liberal so don't bundle me with you love. There are more than just liberals and conservatives, it's not that hard to imagine when you're not a snotty and disconnected twit. 

 

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