"A protester shot my sister" -2 innocent people dead in Iowa at protest

[Leoj305 3,774]

deleted. I hope we look in the mirror and understand our faults. 

[Altair 2,003]

1 minute ago, xoxo Craig said:

You called her egocentric for grieving over her sister. 

Guns do not have a place in America, period. But unfortunately, you guys have the right to bear arms. I think her plea was for ghe protestors to think about what they are doing, like why a gun? I don't think she feels that ALL the protesters are at fault. But to the minority that bring guns or want to bring guns - think. 

She was obviously talking about the minority when she said "all of you ignorants". Not the ENTIRE movement

trust me when I say that when it comes to American media, nothing is obvious. I called her egocentric for posting a video discrediting the movement. I already explained that. 

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3 minutes ago, Leoj305 said:

No one one knows who shot her? Why are people are almost exclusively assuming it’s a white supremicist all of a sudden? This country needs help. 
 

Violence is Incited and is the topic of all our music, where the top streaming songs are about having a gun, shooting the guy next to you, and getting p#ssy/having the best shoes. 
 

you really think it’s not logical to believe we have been conditioned into shooting into the air waves and not giving a f#ck out of anger? 
 

This girl lost her sister, and u guys are saying martial law. The president already basically declared martial law. 
 

Y’all aren’t following the news, Brooklyn, The Bronx, black neighborhoods being looted and destroyed. Small biz for BLACK PEOPLE being destroyed. Atlanta’s mayor a BLACK WOMEN pleaded for this to stop being That MOST OF ATLNTA BIZ is BLACK. 
 

I know I might get banned, I know I’m going to get destroyed because right now saying anything against the protests means u are labeled a facist and racist. 
 

but I am not against protesting, or riots against the establishment. I am against shooting into the air and causing chaos in small biz and mom and pop shops that did nothing to deserve this. 

All. Of. This.

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20 minutes ago, SawyersInsanity said:

i absolutely am. i have sympathy for her loss. but human beings are multi demensional and i can also see that this is what black people and POC in this country face every day. Do you know how many Black people were killed alone this week by cops violence....4, and they have family's too that is what this movement is about. and now thousands of peaceful protesters and people seeking racial justice in this country are going to get labeled as evil animals because right wing outlets will cling to this womens story of pain. her loss is not lesser...but i'm mad it is going to be manipulated to forward racist forces agenda

??????????? girl that's of course true but this has nothing to do with what you said? imagine you lose your mother and i come and tell you 'now you know how all the people who have lost their mothers feel'? this is just completely inappropriate.

[Suuus 5,632]

15 minutes ago, Altair said:

trust me when I say that when it comes to American media, nothing is obvious. I called her egocentric for posting a video discrediting the movement. I already explained that. 

Dude she was emotional and angry after losing her sister she is not going to think about is to not descredit the movement 

[Altair 2,003]

1 minute ago, Suuus said:

Dude she was emotional and angry after losing her sister she is going to think about is to not descredit the movement 

now we're on the same page! 

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This is out of control i respect rioting and looting big corporation buildings, because they perpetuate the system of oppresion, but when we turn the guns to ourselves it's time to halt and reconsider

Let's not distract ourselves from police brutality which is the main reason behind the protests either though

rest in peace

[Suuus 5,632]

1 minute ago, Altair said:

now we're on the same page! 

Sorry that was a typo i meant she was angry and emotional the last thing she is going to think about is not descretiting  the movement 

 

[Altair 2,003]

Just now, Suuus said:

Sorry that was a typo i meant she was angry and emotional the last thing she is going to think about is not descretiting  the movement 

 

We're still on the same page my guy. We're just looking at it from two different lenses. 

We both believe she posted it out of an irrational state of mind and she was not thinking about the implications it would have. 

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1 minute ago, Altair said:

We're still on the same page my guy. We're just looking at it from two different lenses. 

We both believe she posted it out of an irrational state of mind and she was not thinking about the implications it would have. 

Im a woman and i dont think she cared and neither would i

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36 minutes ago, Altair said:

but the problem is that she KNOWS she's going to have a platform, she is hurting the cause. It's not that I'm lacking empathy but right now fascists are using anything they can against us.  This video itself could single handedly put the entire state into martial law, effectively disbanding protesters.  

My issue here is that once again, someone is being egocentric. Hundreds of thousands of black people have been killed by the hands of cops.  What youre seeing right now is the reaction of mothers, sisters, fathers, brothers, of the black community every time someone from their community gets killed by a police officer.  We wouldn't be here if police officers were held accountable but here we are. It is not her place to put us all in a box just because we're asking to be treated like human beings.

 

36 minutes ago, SawyersInsanity said:

i have sympathy but being 100% im sighing because i know this will be used by racist forces to heighten racial tension and anger in this country and throw off a movement that is demanding justice.

The lowest form of people

She's sobbing and lost her sister and she mentioned her seizures that her sister helped her with and that's what you have to say. Have some sympathy.

[Altair 2,003]

Just now, Suuus said:

Im a woman

I'm a man. It's a saying.... 

[Ancient Alien 431]

Some people are acting like life and racism has an off button and after all this violent rioting life will instantly change to a dream world. Protest peacefully, change people’s heart not change their vitality record or burn down their livelihoods. 

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46 minutes ago, SawyersInsanity said:

i have sympathy but being 100% im sighing because i know this will be used by racist forces to heighten racial tension and anger in this country and throw off a movement that is demanding justice.

I know that's going to happen as well, and it's very unfortunate; however, there is no need to borderline antagonize her for it. She just lost her sister. Like I said, her emotions are on high. Her sister and her support the protest. Her sister was there protesting. 

However, in a situation like this, all you're doing is freaking out because of the tragedy that just happened. I understood what you were trying to say, but that was not the way to go about it. Her sister was a victim of the violence. She didn't instigate it and she wasn't a part of the government that we're fighting.

47 minutes ago, Altair said:

but the problem is that she KNOWS she's going to have a platform, she is hurting the cause. It's not that I'm lacking empathy but right now fascists are using anything they can against us.  This video itself could single handedly put the entire state into martial law, effectively disbanding protesters.  

My issue here is that once again, someone is being egocentric. Hundreds of thousands of black people have been killed by the hands of cops.  What youre seeing right now is the reaction of mothers, sisters, fathers, brothers, of the black community every time someone from their community gets killed by a police officer.  We wouldn't be here if police officers were held accountable but here we are. It is not her place to put us all in a box just because we're asking to be treated like human beings.

Her. sister. just. died. 

We are not taking away the fact that thousands of Black people in America have been killed by cops because we are being sympathetic to her sister's death. You can do two different things at once. I can be sympathetic to her, while simultaneously still recognizing the injustice being done in our country. 

Her sister was a victim. She did not instigate the violence. Her sister was not a cop. She was there protesting.

Like I said, her emotions are on high. What would you do if you had just been informed that a close family member or friend died? The answer is you wouldn't know what to do. It might be easy to say, "She shouldn't have done that," but unless you're in that situation yourself, you cannot criticize her for what she did.

To go to your first point, I think this'll only make people who thought that the protests were all violent even more so headstrong in that belief. That said, if they already didn't support the peaceful protests, then they were never going to support them anyway. People should be intelligent enough to distinguish the fact that there are peaceful protesters and people using the movement as an advantage to loot and cause massive chaos. 

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11 minutes ago, M Monstre said:

I know that's going to happen as well, and it's very unfortunate; however, there is no need to borderline antagonize her for it. She just lost her sister. Like I said, her emotions are on high. Her sister and her support the protest. Her sister was there protesting. 

However, in a situation like this, all you're doing is freaking out because of the tragedy that just happened. I understood what you were trying to say, but that was not the way to go about it. Her sister was a victim of the violence. She didn't instigate it and she wasn't a part of the government that we're fighting.

Her. sister. just. died. 

We are not taking away the fact that thousands of Black people in America have been killed by cops because we are being sympathetic to her sister's death. You can do two different things at once. I can be sympathetic to her, while simultaneously still recognizing the injustice being done in our country. 

Her sister was a victim. She did not instigate the violence. Her sister was not a cop. She was there protesting.

Like I said, her emotions are on high. What would you do if you had just been informed that a close family member or friend died? The answer is you wouldn't know what to do. It might be easy to say, "She shouldn't have done that," but unless you're in that situation yourself, you cannot criticize her for what she did.

To go to your first point, I think this'll only make people who thought that the protests were all violent even more so headstrong in that belief. That said, if they already didn't support the peaceful protests, then they were never going to support them anyway. People should be intelligent enough to distinguish the fact that there are peaceful protesters and people using the movement as an advantage to loot and cause massive chaos. 

where am i antagonizing her? please show me. this was a thread posted for public discussion and i didn't personally message her, my points still stand.