Cop cars ramming through a crowd

[codymonster 8,908]

2 hours ago, Lionel Hutz said:

BuT ThErE ArE gOoD CoPs!!!11!

Lol, yes, because these two cops represent every other cop 

[Jill 31,812]

Just now, NewUsername said:

 

Where are you from? Your view can be completely this way because of the situation in your country, so I also apologize if I come over too 'grey', because I'm not from the US.
But it goes the same way for you, you don't know the situation in every other country. We're talking about something here that by definition is not something bad and/so you can't know the situation in all the countries. I doubt you have insight in the training of policemen in every country.

Racism is a HUGE problem in the US, as it is worldwide. That being said, the 'levels' are not the same everywhere and eg. I doubt that, even though there's racism in my country and consequently also racist cops, eg. in my country cops are trained as is to be racist.

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With maybe it being too different of a situation, because hating Catalan people is not as rooted in Spanish police system as racism is in the US police system, I still want to say this:
In October last year, when there were so many riots and so many police brutality of the national police against Catalan people, who just peacefully voted, I was so enraged. I have felt sick and so frustrated because of the whole situation and have been so enraged towards the police. Nevertheless, this has never made me say or think that all, every single individual of the Spanish national police were bad.

 

It's true, I don't have insight on the way cops are trained in every single country, but I do know the institution, as a whole, is built in such a way that attitudes such as racism are welcomed with open arms because they serves as opportunities to show the superiority of one person over the other. Don't you think that the police, as the global concept that is now, is inherently comparable to the concept of moral superiority?

[Jill 31,812]

1 minute ago, codymonster said:

Lol, yes, because these two cops represent every other cop 

Yes, they do.

[ladygagafan1234 700]

What are you supposed to do when your car is being barricaded against by rioters? (not protestors)

[codymonster 8,908]

9 minutes ago, Lionel Hutz said:

Yes, they do.

Completely disagree with you.

[StarstruckIllusion 53,773]

6 minutes ago, Lionel Hutz said:

Don't analogize like that then, because it comes off with a centrist "all sides are equally as bad or as good" kind of vibe. I said why I think there are no good cops. I said that the system itself is against their mere existence. That's why I uphold ACAB, because I see the cops as members and willing participants of a racist institution that has time and time again showed its true colors. Do you want to be cop and do the right thing? Then don't be a cop. There are other ways to accomplish similar things and fight for the security of the people. If you're a good person, you can't be a cop. You can think about being a cop, yes, you can even begin training to be a cop, yes, but if then, when you are presented with the true facts and characteristics of the cop, the cop who stands by the hate and bigotry that come with the job, the cop who is the cop all cops should aspire to be, since it is modeled after the upside down "values" of the system that makes the cop exist in the first place, you decide to keep going, and accept all of that and become a cop, looking up to that image of the cop, then you become a cop. There is no way the people who were good when beginning their training remain as good when officially becoming cops. Because that's not a part of the training. Integrity and correct values are not part of it, and that's the problem. A supremacist system that shows itself over and over again cannot have members who are not supremacist.

Some good and some bad does not mean 50/50. It can mean 90/10 or 60/40. And I’m saying it bc it’s true, not bc I’m a centrist and stan Obama or sumn. I also said why I think there are good cops. Clearly we’re both right at the same time. I don’t get how your definition of bad outweighs police stopping things like mass shootings, but not everyone draws the line in the same place.

Also, you say cops can be good at the beginning can be good, but I don’t get why you’re not defining being a part of the system as when you first get your badge. The badge is what makes you a cop. Not anything else. Once you get the badge you’re a part of the police system. That’s how good cops can exist. All your system draggings are tea tho

Also that training part I’m sorry, what was that? What’s the point of training for something you shouldn’t/can’t officially be? If you’re calling for some other police-like force/system to rise up that’s not lead by current racist system then yay, but like idk how that would’nt end in the existing leadership calling them an organized terror group and stopping them from doing literally anything. Literally sounds like civil war.

I’d rather change the current system, but America chose it’s neoliberal leader over Bernie, and I was depressed by that for a reason. That’s why I’m not mad about the riots.

Unfortunately I have to end this here bc I have real life things to do. Nice getting your perspective tho

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8 hours ago, Lionel Hutz said:

1. It's not true cops in other countries are "way better" and "good". The police institution is a global one, and as such it has ramifications all across the world.

2. You said that "Many people choose their jobs and realize how corrupt and racist it is after spending their whole life on it and its too late to leave and destroy your life." While this may be true, cops are exposed to the nature of the job since day 1. Do you think they don't know the intentions of the ones who surround them since early on? If you don't, then you are misinformed. Like I said, they're trained. They are part of police academies and have to graduate before entering the forces. That's plenty of time to know what kind of people will surround them. Still, they chose to go on. There are no good cops.

 

[TimisaMonster 31,073]

OMG when will cops learn that they can't just do whatever they want? 

What would have happened if they ran over someone and killed them? 

Cops are losing control and becoming impatient trying to "manage" thousands of angry people

[Mars 2,681]

7 hours ago, Kromatica said:

What are you supposed to do when your car is being barricaded against by rioters? (not protestors)

Not make the conscious decision to accelerate and cause harm to innocent civilians lives. The act of driving through a crowd of people protesting (rioting or not) should never be normalised.

[Shaney 5,515]

7 hours ago, Kromatica said:

What are you supposed to do when your car is being barricaded against by rioters? (not protestors)

RUN THEM ALL OVER!

Spoiler

 

[high heeled fem 3]

11 hours ago, Lionel Hutz said:

BuT ThErE ArE gOoD CoPs!!!11!

Thank you!!! Police in America came from SLAVE PATROLS.

also how can we report Biggest Fan for laughing at this horrific post 

[ladygagafan1234 700]

12 hours ago, Mars said:

Not make the conscious decision to accelerate and cause harm to innocent civilians lives. The act of driving through a crowd of people protesting (rioting or not) should never be normalised.

So are they innocent or rioting? choose one. The office felt threatened and accelerated for a second to push them away. How did he know they weren't going to drag him out of the vehicle? You can't just expect him to be passive and let it happen because he's a police officer. They are civilians too, that's part of what this movement is about.