MARINA unfollows Lana Del Rey, comments on the riots

[Aphrodizy26 6]

25 minutes ago, Queen Bitch said:

Why should I be ashamed over what someone who was white did in the past? 

It's the same when certain white people apologize for the actions of other white people. It's absolutely ridiculous. 

Absolutely not

white people need to address privilege and use it for the greater good lmfao

[Runway 27,876]

Lana has a thing for white cops so obviously she won’t come for them

[Oriane 20,937]

45 minutes ago, liquidsunshine said:

You gotta start somewhere. It's always better late than never.

Like someone said previously, silence is complicit.

 

41 minutes ago, KanyeWest said:

I could bet you 1 million that I dont have, that if it were hippie guys with long hair who looked hispter and lived the gypsy kind of life who were getting murdered in los angeles every month every year for decades Lana would make IG stories, IG post writing 7 paragraphs about how they live life like the seventies, they are free and wild and should be treated right, that the cops are absolutely vile etc... #whitelivesmatter  

 

40 minutes ago, Serial Chiller said:

So u suggest the better course of action is to just not ignore it altogether? mmkay sweetie.

No but it's always the same, people speak up about some story that the media decides to pick up on... Today it's a black man who was murdered by cops, tomorrow it's going to be a woman who died because of domestic abuse, or a gay teenager who killed himself because of homophobia...

Of course people who speak up but they should start earlier if it's something they care about. I'm just both uncomfortable and amazed at how these individual stories always seem to become more important than the initial cause behind it. Mostly when people decide to post and share like they suddenly care. If actual massive change comes out of it, that's nice. Unfortunately, it often stops there, the cops will be punished if we're lucky then it will continue as always, and we won't talk about all of the other cases that will happen in the future. I would love to see what all of these celebrities or their followers will say about the movement in the months or years to come. I'm sure some of them will actually do something about it, whether we see it or not. Unfortunately, it's often just a post, because everyone else is doing it, and it looks bad to not do it. And the worst part is that I'm sure most people are absolutely genuine about it on the moment, because of course you're touched by a story like this. But then you move on (which is natural, imagine if we all kept the trauma of every single horrible story we hear about in our lives). It's just sad to decide to post now because everyone is talking about it, but that's social media and society as a whole, always about appearances and we buy it.

[Terrence 1,206]

Good.

At least I get confirmation they will never collab.

[Queen Bitch 10,513]

28 minutes ago, Aphrodizy26 said:

Absolutely not

white people need to address privilege and use it for the greater good lmfao

No. 

[Varys 30,890]

7 minutes ago, Queen Bitch said:

No. 

yes

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42 minutes ago, Queen Bitch said:

No. 

Are you for real? You should be ashamed of your ignorant mindset.

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3 minutes ago, Agunimon said:

You guys are saying that she should have said something about all this, but if she did, you guys would be complaining that she is using this as a means to get back in good favor with everyone.

You all just want someone to be angry at, so you choose whoever you can when you should be mad at the people in politics and law enforcement rather than girls who wear flower crowns and sing sad songs about daddies.

 

[HermesG 1,597]

Why every celebrity came for Lana lately? Did she does something bed that I miss? Enlighten me.. 

[StrawberryBlond 14,820]

You can show compassion and solidarity without whipping yourself. How dare she try to say that any white person who doesn't say anything is suppressing their shame. Newsflash: NOT EVERYONE HAS TWITTER OR ANY FORM OF SOCIAL MEDIA, OR IF IF THEY HAVE, THEY BARELY USE IT! I haven't said anything about George Floyd online but I've been following the story, thinking about it and just talked about it with someone face-to-face today. Not all of us choose to shout how we feel from the rooftops. Just because we don't air our thoughts to all and sundry doesn't mean we don't care. As I said on another thread, we need to stop believing that everyone should post their political thoughts on social media. Not everyone's comfortable with that. What did we do before social media? Talked about things in person or kept them to ourselves. Some of us prefer it that way. Social media is not the only way to get a message of support out there. Utilise this phrase "do good quietly." I'm more of a person who works in the background. I won't initiate a hug for someone in public and encourage everyone else to do the same but I'll wait until everyone has left the room and go up for a heart-to-heart and a hug. I just don't like to be public about that kinda stuff. I'm the same in other areas of my life. You can do good in total silence. It can be a virtue. I will not be bullied into using social media if I don't want to.

And how exactly does reading history books make things better? We already know of the oppression. If you need to read to find out about it, you must be living under a rock. It's nauseating to see this kind of cliche rolled out. Marina is just looking for woke points here, she didn't need to go to this extreme. Always be mad at the establishment, not at individuals who have done nothing wrong. I was not directly responsible for any of the events that led to George Floyd's murder, I refuse to feel guilty for something I didn't do. Any sane person should feel the same.

4 hours ago, NathanC said:

She did scream on her timeline about glorifying abusive men... and starting drama with a few people. But ok...

you’re either not American or American and tone deaf to the riots happening in our country. I guess racial justice is beneath her and you. 

She never glorified abusive men, she was glorifying her twisted mental state if anything. And she wasn't starting drama with the women she mentioned, they were just reference points, she wasn't even talking about them negatively.

You can care about racial justice without feeling the need to post about it on social media.

4 hours ago, Varys said:

but white people are still advantaged and black people still suffer as result of those ancestors

And why should innocent white people today who have never done anything wrong apologise on behalf of those people? And what can the average citizen do to change racial issues today? The establishment makes the choices, not us. I have no more power than the average black person when it comes to affecting change. I have literally no power over anyone in my life. People love to throw out these cliches but they don't actually provide any solutions.

3 hours ago, KanyeWest said:

I don't know about you but if my friend who's a celeb, says nothing about the injustice and murder of an innocent black man, living in the US, as an american, when black people are oppressed since the beginning of the country, I would be disgusted, it would make me wanna vomit. The silence means something, she's a bystander, she doesn't care about black people, she cares about cops, this is what it means. As someone who dated a cop, it makes sense 

And Im the biggest Lana fan

The extremity of this post really concerns me. Why would you bully or shame someone into posting on social media if they don't want to? For any reason? What would you make them do if it were the days were social media didn't exist? Just because you don't hear them talking about it doesn't mean they're not doing it when they're away from you. And watch her video for Norman F**king Rockwell if you seriously think she supports cops in general. I don't think she's even dating that cop anymore anyway. And not all white cops are bad or she wouldn't have dated him.

3 hours ago, Gagaloo911 said:

Silence by white people is complicity and essentially violence and support of the violence and brutality against Black people in this country.

Don't compare silence with a literal physical assault. It's very dangerous to conflate the two. Not everyone is an exhibitionist with their opinions or extroverted. Leave us introverts alone.

2 hours ago, Aphrodizy26 said:

Absolutely not

white people need to address privilege and use it for the greater good lmfao

You can do that quietly. You don't need to do it on social media for the whole world to see. We're not all exhibitionists looking for woke points. That just gives the illusion that change is happening even when it's not anyway.

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13 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

The extremity of this post really concerns me. Why would you bully or shame someone into posting on social media if they don't want to? For any reason? What would you make them do if it were the days were social media didn't exist? Just because you don't hear them talking about it doesn't mean they're not doing it when they're away from you. And watch her video for Norman F**king Rockwell if you seriously think she supports cops in general. I don't think she's even dating that cop anymore anyway. And not all white cops are bad or she wouldn't have dated him.

When u spend 3 days using all the energy that u have to defend an idea of yourself, write 4/7 paragraphs and stay silent on a tragedy thats worldwide news by the way, only heard of it bcs in my country they talk about it. It's shocking it's disgusting, it's appalling and she's an american, it's supposed to hurt more, there are violent riots, people are in pain and she chooses to say absolutely nothing after a couple days really taking the time to speak on an issue she's passionate about: herself. So yes, it comes off as very hypocritical. I said it before, celebs r not politicians, not activists they have zero obligation to speak on matters like this, but damn wouldn't it be great if everyone with a huge platform whether it be tiktokers or whoever used it to spread positive information and give tips and tricks to their massive followers on how u can help the best way u can? Is tragedy and the racist issue of the US a political issue? It's not, it's a human right issue, it's absolutely appalling that as a 30 something white american with 10+ million followers you choose to spend ur energy on explainin urself and not on an insanely crazy murder in ur country. 

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4 hours ago, Queen Bitch said:

Why should I be ashamed over what someone who was white did in the past? 

It's the same when certain white people apologize for the actions of other white people. It's absolutely ridiculous. 

Because even today you take advantage of the horrible things those people did in the past. It's not that hard, just think a little hun

[Wolf Boy 3,238]

She hasn’t followed Lana for ages.

 

[bowie1986 178]

Lana’s voice wouldn’t be embraced or appreciated right now. She is smart to stay silent — for now. Hopefully she is supporting the fight in other ways. 

[Bobbylon 403]

Lana’s way smarter than instagram post that does nothing. Just because you say something on ig it doesn’t mean it has impact. Especially in her situation. When even if she says something people would still call her racist.