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Gaga is bringing back the meaning of albums


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Varys
Just now, pop ate my heart said:

Future Nostalgia? A concept album? :ladyhaha:

I edited my post. I realised myself this was a reach nnnn

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xoxo Craig
5 minutes ago, Varys said:

I dont fully agree with this. There are K-12 NFR future nostalgia lemonade Melodrama all were a full album experience and except future nostalgia told a story but FN was cohesive in sound

Future Nostalgia didn't really have a storyline to it. Melanie and Lana are not pop girls, but I do agree with Beyonce. Having said that, there aren't many artists who release albums that are a whole album experience which was the point I was trying to make

Edit: I just saw the above post :selena:

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Hyperballad

Most *mainstream pop artists don’t make concept albums. 
 

A ton of artists have been creating great conceptual albums :awkney: 

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GerMonsterNotta

Proud of her - I believe the art and stories she creates with her albums is really part of what Lady Gaga has always been about .... super proud that this is something she still stands by 10+ years on :)

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Varys
2 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said:

Future Nostalgia didn't really have a storyline to it. Melanie and Lana are not pop girls, but I do agree with Beyonce. Having said that, there aren't many artists who release albums that are a whole album experience which was the point I was trying to make

Edit: I just saw the above post :selena:

Well there was also melodrama but thats lorde and she is probably also not a pop girl :huntyga:

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Lord Temptation
12 hours ago, AlexanderMagno said:

I actually disagree.

I think Gaga has achieved the perfect "album concept" for pop with ARTPOP, where songs flow in a very conceptual way and it's actually harder to appreciate them separately (probably one of the reasons why it was not as successful).

 

Chromatica just tries. Songs are easily heard isolated, you can easily appreciate each song on its own without the album context. What we basically have is an album divided in three segments, and each segment has its own theme, sort of. Not really a "full album concept" that runs through, it could simply be a collection of 3 EPs in the world of Chromatica (in fact it sounds like it, and that would probably be even more interesting).

I do think comparing ARTPOP with Chromatica is inevitable, yet for me (a diehard ARTPOPIAN) I feel that Chromatica at least matches the intensity and breadth of what ARTPOP was trying to achieve. In many ways ARTPOP was about failure, or why we fail, with songs that clashed and clothes that looked like they were worn as a joke. Like “don’t take me seriously, i’m not saying anything important” to the entire global media. Not to say that ARTPOP was depressing or nihilistic in any way, but the project was kind of a wake up call. A mission that was, knowingly and decidedly, too big and grandiose to fail. We set ourselves up for defeat when we know the enemy is THAT GREAT...

But what I love about Chromatica is how it seems to be focused on the concept of harmony, the precise opposite of contrast. Songs that blend into each other. Rhymes that sound nostalgic and alive with hope rather than machine-like beats and hymns full of despair. If ARTPOP was an allegory about the war of worlds between art and pop, Chromatica is all about peace.

Not to say that the two albums themselves are opposites, there is still continuity in Gaga’s ironic and decadent lyricism, as well as the interplay of themes. I would say ARTPOP is very rooted in the idea of art and pop as constructs that divide the world, whereas Chromatica is centred on the idea of unity - viewing the universe as a singular mathematical object (a soul that emerges to hear itself, see itself, feel itself), with embedded transformations such as rotation, translation, scaling, inversion that  describe (or define, or unite) us even in ways that seem counterintuitive. For example the notion that Einstein discovered in relativity, that energy and matter are actually dual aspects of the same idea: force. Or how space and time are the same thing. Mind and body.

So, while ARTPOP is like an explosion of pain and a catalogue of destruction, with Chromatica, it’s more of a celebration where she has healing as it’s central message. The idea that light, and sound, and motion (especially dance) and above all else love - all heal us.

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Terrence

I noticed I only really stan album artists: Gaga, Lana, Björk, Grimes, Sufjan Stevens

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pop ate my heart
1 hour ago, Lord Temptation said:

I do think comparing ARTPOP with Chromatica is inevitable, yet for me (a diehard ARTPOPIAN) I feel that Chromatica at least matches the intensity and breadth of what ARTPOP was trying to achieve. In many ways ARTPOP was about failure, or why we fail, with songs that clashed and clothes that looked like they were worn as a joke. Like “don’t take me seriously, i’m not saying anything important” to the entire global media. Not to say that ARTPOP was depressing or nihilistic in any way, but the project was kind of a wake up call. A mission that was, knowingly and decidedly, too big and grandiose to fail. We set ourselves up for defeat when we know the enemy is THAT GREAT...

But what I love about Chromatica is how it seems to be focused on the concept of harmony, the precise opposite of contrast. Songs that blend into each other. Rhymes that sound nostalgic and alive with hope rather than machine-like beats and hymns full of despair. If ARTPOP was an allegory about the war of worlds between art and pop, Chromatica is all about peace.

Not to say that the two albums themselves are opposites, there is still continuity in Gaga’s ironic and decadent lyricism, as well as the interplay of themes. I would say ARTPOP is very rooted in the idea of art and pop as constructs that divide the world, whereas Chromatica is centred on the idea of the universe as a singular mathematical object (a soul that emerges to hear itself, see itself, feel itself), with embedded transformations such as rotation, translation, scaling, inversion that  describe (or define, or unite) us even in ways that seem counterintuitive. For example the notion that Einstein discovered in relativity, that energy and matter are actually dual aspects of the same idea: force. Or how space and time are the same thing. Mind and body.

So, while ARTPOP is like an explosion of pain and a catalogue of destruction, with Chromatica, it’s more of a celebration where she has healing as it’s central message. The idea that light, and sound, and motion (especially dance) and above all else love - all heal us.

omg preach :tony:

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