EuphoricVibez 9 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, JOSHMATICA said: THIS ! She's now a peer to the younger pop stars, i don't care what anyone says. Everybody is excited for Chromatica ! Agreed! She's capturing everyone's attention, and I feel like after Chromatica, it will cement her impact, and legacy for GOOD. He/him/his Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adarsh Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, Brecht said: She will never have the success she had in 2010 ever again. No one will have that success ever again tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 19,220 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, Brecht said: She will never have the success she had in 2010 ever again. But I believe the danger of her fading into obscurity after ARTPOP is long gone and she will always be here with some highs and some lows. And now she's on a high. She already topped that with ASIB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, EuphoricVibez said: Agreed! She's capturing everyone's attention, and I feel like after Chromatica, it will cement her impact, and legacy for GOOD. Yes !!! I have to say, it really warms my heart to see everybody going crazy over her again. I remember when everybody would just dismiss and discredit her. She has proven her raw talent time and time again and the the fact she's going down the road of Cher and Barbara Streisand just makes so much sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 19,220 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 @BBC she already is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 52,780 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, Brecht said: She will never have the success she had in 2010 ever again. But I believe the danger of her fading into obscurity after ARTPOP is long gone and she will always be here with some highs and some lows. And now she's on a high. the way that happened and it’s still people’s favorite era... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerMonsterNotta 1,441 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Ugh did anyone else really eye roll when they rehash the madonna comparison story again.... Can they just not.. it's boring and almost 10 years ago now. Everyones moved on and everything has evolved so much since then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuphoricVibez 9 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 minute ago, JOSHMATICA said: Yes !!! I have to say, it really warms my heart to see everybody going crazy over her again. I remember when everybody would just dismiss and discredit her. She has proven her raw talent time and time again and the the fact she's going down the road of Cher and Barbara Streisand just makes so much sense. I agree! Everybody's going crazy over Gaga again, and it feels just like it did back in the earlier days of her career He/him/his Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyPunkLover 2,120 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 OMG THIS STUPID QUESTIONS SHE IS THE BIGGEST POP STAR IN THE UNIVERSE!!!! "Just because you know my name, doesn't mean you know my game" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Fudge 8,635 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 What she had in 2010 was something rare and special. She doesn’t need to reach or exceed that to be successful. Stop, BBC. 🙄 Been a cuff touple, a puff bupple, a tough couple of years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImTired 3,955 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 30 minutes ago, melon said: how can she be the world’s biggest pop star when she’s on Chromatica Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 What kind of 2013-ed article. After winning an Oscar, snatching a #1, being nominated for Best Actress, starring in a successful movie, and spending over a decade in the fickle music industry, what more is there to even prove in regards to her success and longevity at this point? She has remained a big name no matter how you slice it. I feel like if she has some success this era, the goalposts are just going to pivot to something else ("she's successful, but is it good though?" etc) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Taylor Swift said in an interview that women in music are "discarded in an elephant graveyard by the time they're 35" and I believe this is somewhat true. Even though Madonna was still very successful in mainstream until her 50s this is how society works sadly. Male popstars of Gaga's caliber would probably already be celebrated as a new type of David Bowie or Freddy Mercury after their TF or TFM era. However, Gaga has to reinvent herself every damn era to make the public still talk about her. I don't think she does this just for the sake of getting attention, this is her artistic integrity but men can literally throw out basic pop songs and just play on a guitar on stage and they would probably get all-time-high reviews and number one singles and articles like that BBC type of **** would not even come to the mind of a journalist. This type of competition among outstandigly succesful female musicians that is nurtured by the media is nowhere to be seen amongst male artists. What I am trying to say is that as long as society doesn't change in that regard we'll never see Gaga have the same momentum she had in 2010/2011 when literally everyone was talking about her at that time. Realistically, best thing that can happen to her (and to us) is that Chromatica reintegrates Gaga's image as an iconic female musician at the level of Madonna (again, competition) and is accepted by society like that but by the time she passes her fourties she'll have it incredibly difficult to be accepted by our heteronormative society with her bringing herself into the spotlight with music again and again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerMonsterNotta 1,441 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, freebit said: What kind of 2013-ed article. After winning an Oscar, snatching a #1, being nominated for Best Actress, starring in a successful movie, and spending over a decade in the fickle music industry, what more is there to even prove in regards to her success and longevity at this point? She has remained a big name no matter how you slice it. I feel like if she has some success this era, the goalposts are just going to pivot to something else ("she's successful, but is it good though?" etc) Completely this, it is so outdated, ... why is she subject to so much scrutiny to 'stick around' ...... She's proved so much in only the first 12 years of her career and showed the world so many DIFFERENT facets to her art, - which others would proud to achieve in a whole LIFETIME... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyerased 2,886 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 I actually like the article. It’s not wrong to wonder, it’s not even putting her down. I think it’s nice to analyze things. Short answer is no, if you base it on their definition. Chances are she’ll never be THAT pop star again. She’s past that and that’s okay. What she had early in her career was special. It was—a cultural reset. Her clout on culture was bigger than her chart performance. Actually it didn’t matter, nor did acclaim. What she had was the power to change the cultural conversation. To change taste and direct where culture is going. ASIB was a different kind of career high. It’s not comparable to her earlier peak not because it is inferior but because it is different. It was all about acclaim and solidifying her legacy. After ASIB it was okay to like Gaga. It’s not a weird thing anymore. It didn’t command culture but it really took her to a different level in a way that she’s part of the greats. The question they posed about her escaping her influences is something I wonder too. She somehow did that when she came out but it was still inspired by her idols. The question of her being a legend is not a thing anymore. I so often wonder when will she put out something that’s not influenced by a decade, sound, subculture or an artist. I think the closest she came to it is with Born This Way LP, the message, the imagery was hers. She wasn’t the first to do some of it but put together it was still a vision that was unique to her. No one else can pull off Born This Way the era. The only thing holding it back was that with BTW you can feel Springsteen on it. Gaga is fortunate enough to be have several career-highs. That made her a legend. Her talent did it. It’s okay if she’s not gonna be the “biggest” pop star again. She’s way bigger than that. What I want to see now is how will she push music forward. Will her future efforts be recognized as groundbreaking? Not in a commercial but artistically. Only time will tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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