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Epigenetic-Ga

GerMonsterNotta
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Any scientists or science lovers here loving Gaga's references here in the promo?? :cool:
I dont know how well the epi-genome has been referenced before in the pop culture sphere/ music world?! ... (unless anyone knows otherwise...)

I kind of love the slight similarity, in that epigenetic scientists were once not the cool kids at the party when this was very new stuff, ie not everyone believed how important these changes were to disease and are still purely focussed on direct changes in the DNA code alone........ but now the epigenetic field is exploding and really is the "s#xy science" in the community...

Come through Methylation Queen :toofunny:

Do you think she'll make reference directly in a song on Chromatica?! Which one, and how?
Or is this just an interesting discussion point for her promo. 


..or is this line of excitement just me here :lmao:

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Delusional

Me reading this thread:

”are they talking about Epione?”

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brucee

I do. I'm here for that. 

I tried already to explain how it shows Gaga is a clever girl, she goes deep, she's on point. She know what she does.

This topic is fresh in the science world... So Like. The girl is literally studying depression and stuff and how it can be transmitted... Via the epigenome, methylation of DNA and stuff.... OMG I traumatised of making threads. So thanks. 

I got a feeling this thread will flop idk why. But it make me smile a lot. 

Do you think that the Sun energy mixed with highly positive thoughts and chants can un-methylise the DNA ? I am doing that when I'm like alone in nature. Chanting for washing my epigenome.... 

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Michael Baram

lol sure... happy you’re happy honey

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Helxig

Okay but all I wanna know is if someone can tell me how to cleanse the depression and anxiety from my DNA? :huntyga:

I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin.
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HasBeyn

Thats really cool and interesting

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brucee
3 minutes ago, Helxig said:

Okay but all I wanna know is if someone can tell me how to cleanse the depression and anxiety from my DNA? :huntyga:

chant in the sun... 

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Helxig
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6 minutes ago, brucee said:

chant in the sun... 

I don't go in the sun :huntyga:  have you seen my skin? :laughga: 

I'll chant to the moon instead :pray: 

Naked under the milky white rays of the moonlight you will find me, dancing a dance not before seen by man 

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Giorno Giovanna
2 minutes ago, Helxig said:

I don't go in the sun :huntyga:  have you seen my skin? :laughga: 

I'll chant to the moon instead :pray:

use some good quality sun protection :firega: and you can pray to the sun 

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Both Sides Now

Hello girlies I’m a lurker here :pawsup:
 

I’m doing a PhD in genetics and when Gaga mentioned epigenetics in her interview I actually cringed a little :poot: I was relieved when she said something along the lines of “I’m not trying to make this pseudoscience” but yeah. 
 

What she’s suggesting is a BIG stretch which I’ve actually noticed in the mainstream. It comes from studies that show that “stress” can cause changes to your epigenome which can be heritable. The jump from that to “the death of my aunt caused me to inherit trauma from my dad” is a bit of a leap for me :ohwell:


I don’t mean to sound overly critical to Ga but I think most scientists would roll their eyes at that :messga:

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brucee
17 minutes ago, Helxig said:

Naked under the milky white rays of the moonlight you will find me, dancing a dance not before seen by man 

making poetry like this can be an option too. 

 

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LilyLark

TBH found it a bit cringey. Also thought for a hot second that some dumb person would confuse epigenetics with Nazi eugenics and think the former was the latter.

It absolutely convinced me she was sort of into Marianne Williamson (lol), because she talks about epigenetics. To be fair, Marianne has a lot of people who love her and you don't have to like everything she does but a while back she used to be a semi anti-vaxxer (she denies she was ever one, but some of her old comments...anyway, currently she is not one thank god because I have some friends who are into her).

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GerMonsterNotta
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3 hours ago, Both Sides Now said:

Hello girlies I’m a lurker here :pawsup:
 

I’m doing a PhD in genetics and when Gaga mentioned epigenetics in her interview I actually cringed a little :poot: I was relieved when she said something along the lines of “I’m not trying to make this pseudoscience” but yeah. 
 

What she’s suggesting is a BIG stretch which I’ve actually noticed in the mainstream. It comes from studies that show that “stress” can cause changes to your epigenome which can be heritable. The jump from that to “the death of my aunt caused me to inherit trauma from my dad” is a bit of a leap for me :ohwell:


I don’t mean to sound overly critical to Ga but I think most scientists would roll their eyes at that :messga:

I completely agree in that her save with not pretending to have answers and not being a "pseudoscientist" struck with importance to me, I too am studying a PhD in cancer biology :D 

Agree there are certainly many I know who would just eye-roll at this, but my thread is more about putting Epigenetics in pop-culture and in the public, non-science sphere. Everyone knows to some extent what DNA is, but maybe not so much about how genes are expressed in cells. 

I dont think she's making a complete leap in what shes saying or jumping wholly to conclusions.. but more taking comfort in the fact that there COULD be some science behind what she feels, and taking some kind of comfort in that people are finding it important enough to study depression and mental health at the molecular levels .... 

Loving another bioscientist on this thread :hug:
 

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Cherry Cherry
10 minutes ago, Both Sides Now said:

Hello girlies I’m a lurker here :pawsup:
 

I’m doing a PhD in genetics and when Gaga mentioned epigenetics in her interview I actually cringed a little :poot: I was relieved when she said something along the lines of “I’m not trying to make this pseudoscience” but yeah. 
 

What she’s suggesting is a BIG stretch which I’ve actually noticed in the mainstream. It comes from studies that show that “stress” can cause changes to your epigenome which can be heritable. The jump from that to “the death of my aunt caused me to inherit trauma from my dad” is a bit of a leap for me :ohwell:


I don’t mean to sound overly critical to Ga but I think most scientists would roll their eyes at that :messga:

I agree with the inheriting trauma from her dad part. Epigenetics is a lot more subtle than that.

The Dutch Famine is main example we're all taught in genetics I think, but it shows that the trauma isn't transmitted to you but it causes you to inherit a health issue (mental or physical). It's highly likely that the epigenome she inherited from her dad was tainted (for a lack of a better word) but she didn't inherit trauma. She's also experienced trauma herself so I think it's hard to draw a line between her dad's influence on her epigenome and how her life experiences have modified her epigenome. I know that there's ongoing research into how epigenetic modifications are involved in how humans adapt to a changing environment

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