ROM impacting Pop & HAC Radio 5/22

[ThisBitch 3,436]

2 minutes ago, Mr S said:

Not really. Taylor Swift has 5 and Adele has less.

Gaga has 2 #1 hits in 2009, 1 in 2011 and 1 in 2019, getting another 1 dance song would make her hit discography complete in my opinion. Applause (2013) and Million Reasons (2017) both at 4 are a nice bridge to fill the 2011-2019 gap)

[Mr S 8,672]

5 minutes ago, Kimihiro said:

Adele has 4 right?

It’s really not a great metric of success in the long run.

I remember reading somewhere that someone said that before, the legends we have (MJ, Madonna, etc) weren’t always on top. That there were more relevant acts sometimes but they’re the ones who lasted the course.

Oh yes she has 4 (5 after A4 lead single)

But year #1s don't matter. Only chart nerds care about that. As long as the artist makes enough classic hits during their imperial phase, that's what's important. Gaga has. 

[Economy 49,553]

We are so getting that #1 debut 

[Guest]

Is it me or I feel the overall excitement is more related to the chart position than to the song itself? 

[Maleficent 6]

“shower your affection, let it rain on me
pull down the mountains bring your cities to the sea
shower your affection, let it rain on me
dont leave me on this white cliff, let it slide down to the sea”

[Awrah999 4,296]

1 hour ago, Rudz Xinc said:

This is really sad she only has 4 #1 singles.

It’s actually not. #1’s have never defined careers nor should they. This is also just counting #1’s in the US and ignoring huge markets all over the world, which multiple other Gaga songs have gone #1 in. The way charting is calculated has also changed over the years and now that YouTube views and streams are weighed in, a #1 today means something much different that a #1 10 years ago. Sure, it would be nice if Gaga had more #1’s in the US but that doesn’t take away from the fact that her songs are some of the best selling of all time, regardless of the chart peak in one week, or from the fact that she is one of most talented, respected, and globally successful artists of our time. 

[Awrah999 4,296]

I’m just excited to have Gaga get the radio payola Ariana usually gets so she gets more overall exposure , but the song itself sounds like a surefire hit and we are truly blessed to have these two vocal powerhouses come together for a all female, club bopping POP smash. 

[Taide 5,789]

I hope we get at least top 3 debut with STEADY run inside the top 10. Not here for SL 2.0 chart run.

[Rio 5,088]

2 hours ago, rasclautmangos said:

Is it really that rare?

It's definitely rare for Gaga. Then again, I'm sure Troy ensured she had them matched up back in the day, but cant remember

[JustJames 950]

20 minutes ago, AMURER said:

Is it me or I feel the overall excitement is more related to the chart position than the song itself? 

Yep. It really is amazing to be on a forum dedicated to a popstar that revolutionized the industry 12 years ago and was able to just land a #5 lead single that didn't pander to Adult Contemporary and wasn't a desperate grab at a younger market, yet watch people literally scream from the 2nd week of that single's release for "Ariana to save the era." The hype itself is exciting because I'd imagine Gaga's team would not be so behind this song if it were going to let us down, but the fact that so many here will judge this entire album cycle based on her streaming numbers is just pathetic. 

1 minute ago, Awrah999 said:

It’s actually not. #1’s have never defined careers nor should they. This is also just counting #1’s in the US and ignoring huge markets all over the world, which multiple other Gaga songs have gone #1 in. The way charting is calculated has also changed over the years and now that YouTube views and streams are weighed in, a #1 today means something much different that a #1 10 years ago. Sure, it would be nice if Gaga had more #1’s in the US but that doesn’t take away from the fact that her songs are some of the best selling of all time, regardless of the chart peak in one week, or from the fact that she is one of most talented, respected, and globally successful artists of our time. 

Preach. The Hot 100 needs to be revamped BADLY. It being used as the premier barometer of success in the industry is what has led to the decline in the album-oriented release of music.

Until the 2010s, charting on the BB Hot 100 meant your song was a success because in order to get there, radio programmers had to be getting requests to play it from their audience, that audience had to like what they heard enough to continuously request it, as well as take their money and time to go purchase a physical copy of it at a store OR ask someone in their families with those resources to do it for them. Songs had longevity because they had to simmer and only the greatest rose to the top. Once that had happened, an artist had gained enough awareness (or not) that they could release followup music with less of a lag and if people liked 2 or more of those songs, album sales would surge, etc.

This is a simplification but it shows how 10-year olds having access to a free streaming platform like Spotify which allows them to consume music from their favorite artist non-stop upon and after release, combined with the collapse of music in retail format, combined with a decline in radio listenining... all means that the Hot 100 is no longer objective. Songs literally NEVER charted during an album bomb because there was never a chance that labels would issue physical copies of anything other than official singles for purchase and/or radios would never play anything that hadn't passed the GP sniff test. Songs almost NEVER debuted in the Top 10, and a #1 debut was unheard of as recently as when Britney did it twice with "3" and "Hold it Against Me." Songs almost NEVER continuously lingered in the upper portion of the charts because artists and songs were releasing newer content that would replace the old everywhere music was consumed.

Charts now are all about the debut, because it is the only chance at interrupting the continuous loop of large fanbases that are streaming Billie Eilish and Justin Bieber on heavy rotation over and over. Deep album cuts now earn a spot on the Charts which shouldn't even be allowed if they aren't official singles. The Cure was behind 7 or so Kendrick Lamar album cuts, for example. It's great when artists have hype and even more when they have hype for an entire BOW that people purchase and listen. But, all the Charts measure now is essentially how large a fanbase is + the incremental spillover in the debut week into other fanbases. Hype does not = acceptance and awareness. 

[Rio 5,088]

2 hours ago, Leoj305 said:

In the Us. What’s crazy is that her “biggest” song bad romance didn’t hit #1 on the hot 100.

Which why we shouldn't be paying attention to numbers. All of her hits could have hit #2 and she still could have be the legend that is Lady Gaga today, through impact and talent alone. Fortunately, impact isn't just #1 singles.

[ShayCristoforo 10,607]

The fact that Gaga looks like a kindness hooker in the photo. Lol triggered 

[JustJames 950]

Also, this current era where fans are obsessed with their favorite debuting high on the Charts, while the Charts themselves are broken has led to a lack of appreciate for what an artist like Gaga has done in her career. Just Dance took over a year to reach the top of the Hot 100. She then followed with a 2nd #1 hit, and ultimately 4 top 10 smashes off of her debut album. Today, Just Dance would be labeled a "flop," Lady Gaga's label would hold her album hopes hostage, and she would fire off single after single until something stuck. The Fame would have never been released, let alone been allowed to reach the amazing highs it did.

Her singles were major moments until ARTPOP. They had longevity but also had high peaks. It was amazing. This is why her singles had eras of their own; there was enough demand, appreciation, and time to create a visual and messaging storyline for promo and performances. She is an artist whose songs are cemented into their moments in time because of this, and it is so ridiculously undervalued in these days of instant gratification, "flop!" and "cancel!" 

As measured now, she would have #1s from: BR > DWUW (except MTN). The streams would have been record-shattering had they been available at those times. She had ALBUM CUTS like Starstruck get onto the Bubbling Under chart in 2009! Speechless, Hair, Venus, Dope, and AYO charted. Literally, every song on TF, TFM, BTW, and ARTPOP would have charted on album week during the Spotify era.

I can't believe how frequently people forget that Judas debuted at #10 with 3 days of tracking and no MV. Edge of Glory debuted at #3 as a promo single and digital sales only. Hair debuted #12 as a promo single. EOG had its MV delayed. DWUW had its MV canceled. Even without changing history to have Spotify around for her peak, she should have a lot more success on the Charts had her team not messed up the release schedule/MV/other BS.

With very little adjustment to the matrix, she'd have 7 #1 Singles: Just Dance, Pokerface, Paparazzi/Bad Romance (Paparazzi was still rising when BR debuted at its unfortunate time when it'd be ultimately c*ck-blocked), Born This Way (debut), Judas (debut), Edge of Glory (debut), Shallow.

[MelbHawker 6,583]

She better release the video during the debut week too. 

[Rifek 51,753]

Just now, MelbHawker said:

She better release the video during the debut week too. 

It’s coming along with the single