Colleen Ballinger (Miranda Sings) accused of grooming a minor

[Suuus 5,632]

This story will be debunked before it even began

[Red 98,356]

This is the floppiest attempt on cancelling somebody I've ever seen in my life

[NCgaga 4,330]

Eh. It’s not grooming, and the title led us to believe the lingerie thing was some weird sexual minor thing. Was obviously a joke that was also not obviously well thought out. 
 

Just a lack of professionalism on her part. For her to confide in a 13 year old shows her emotional instability. She probably thrives off the idea that someone truly liked her, and used that to help her through her divorce emotionally. She obviously thought his knowledge of the brand would help elevate her career back, and when it started to backfire, her emotional instability and lack of professionalism caused her to separate herself from him. Unfortunately her not handling the situation professionally, caused her to hurt this impressionable teen, who was just trying to help his idol. 
 

This isn’t career cancelling, but she definetely has a few lessons to learn about business, relationships and professionalism. Using a teenager for emotional stabilty and career rejuvenation is not going to work obviously. She also offered to pay him. 

[The Shallow 86]

I wonder if this will lead her to end Miranda? It's clearly been failing and everyone seems to be much more interested in her personal accounts now. 

Maybe she can make the current tour she has planned a farewell tour.

[Red 98,356]

OMG the way he keeps saying she tried to guilt him is so manipulative

[Suuus 5,632]

19 minutes ago, Red said:

This is the floppiest attempt on cancelling somebody I've ever seen in my life

He even disabled the comments on his video LoL ib4 josh told him to do this

[Red 98,356]

Okay I've just finished watching the whole video, the only shady thing Colleen ever did was ghost him but that boy is clearly out there to cancel her for attention, she did not try to guilt him of anything, she was just expressing how bad it felt to have people hating on her. I mean, she was definitely unprofessional for leaving him talking to the hand and allowing Cory to talk **** about him after but like, das it. And that underwear situation is just ridiculous.

[Red 98,356]

15 minutes ago, The Shallow said:

I wonder if this will lead her to end Miranda? It's clearly been failing and everyone seems to be much more interested in her personal accounts now. 

Maybe she can make the current tour she has planned a farewell tour.

I legit haven't seen a Miranda video in months, I don't know, I have the vibes that ever since haters back off was cancelled she just straight up doesn't like to be Miranda anymore

[Zeth 929]

Why are people defending a YouTuber in her thirties with years of experience managing a YouTube channel, influencer personality, and character entrusting a MINOR with her entire image?

The weird ass lingerie crap aside, what sane person would, again, entrust a minor with their livelihood???  
 

Really, just seems like she’s burnt out and tried to take the easy route of taking advantage of someone for free service. Karma sucks. 

[Putang Ina Mo 2,197]

9 hours ago, LGs LM said:

I only watch Safiya from those "popular" youtubers anyway. Most youtubers I watch aren't that youtube-famous.

Too bad she rarely posts unlike before

[Daylight Jokers 14,958]

6 minutes ago, Tangina said:

Too bad she rarely posts unlike before

But when she does post, the content is very thorough and well-researched. That's what I love about her videos. She's not a know-it-all, she does her research.

[REALITY 77,703]

I can see both sides of this situation...

On one hand, I think it's really weird and inappropriate for her to be talking about her divorce to a 13 year old. Like, why would he need to know that? Even if he was a super fan, it's inappropriate to talk about intimate details about your divorce to someone so young.

I also think that sending him the lingerie was also really weird. I get that it's a joke, and ultimately, I wouldn't put too much of an emphasis on that, but it's still inappropriate to send him that stuff.

In regards to the whole Twitter account thing, to be honest, while I do think it's sleazy of her to have someone else run the account, I can understand her frustration when it comes to the whole Meghan Trainor situation. Hindsight is always 20/20. Just because she said it was okay one day doesn't necessarily mean that she's eternally bound to that. She can change her opinion on the subject, and clearly she did after she got a lot of hate from that.

I do think ignoring him when he clearly wasn't doing okay didn't help the situation either, though. Like, he's obviously super distressed about the situation, and talking sh*t behind his back with her friends and other fans didn't do anything to help. She should've communicated more to him.

You should change the title of this thread, though. "Grooming" sounds heavy, and she didn't do anything to "groom" him. From the evidence here, it's not like she was making sexual advances. I just think that it was inappropriate of her to do some of the things she did. 

[Antoni 5,332]

I'm over halfway through this video, and so far nothing he is complaining about is grooming or even manipulative behavior. I don't like the way she made him her intern like that without any solid plan for idea for how the work relationship would go, but that's how Hollywood works. Someone with a little power likes an idea and impulsively rushes to make the idea happen.

It also is ridiculous how he turned the lingerie thing into a controversy. It was not hers. It was worn as a joke, they sent it because it was funny. It has nothing to do with being sexual. Jesus, this kid. 

The only thing I see wrong about any of this is her venting about the divorce to a 13 year old and having him look for stuff for her, but you're lying if you wouldn't do the same for Gaga. 

Edit:

The more I watch, the more clear this is.

"I would never tweet something like that" - Colleen about one tweet

"Now she's taking back everything she likes about me, all my tweet ideas" - Kid

No offense to the guy, but he has some serious emotional sensitivity issues. I say that from experience. Colleen was sharing her feelings with him when she started to panic about something, and he took it as an attack on him or her guilt tripping him, even though not a single thing she said could be construed that way. She was being open with him, and now he's looking at it as her being manipulative. This situation is blown way out of proportion and the kid needs real therapy, not a YouTube controversy. I hope he gets help.

I'm 19 minutes in and am going to take a break from the video for awhile. I might not finish it. 

[Blastertoyo 22,734]

1 hour ago, Tangina said:

Too bad she rarely posts unlike before

Well it’s hard to order 4000 bottles of shampoo from Wish to mix together at times like these 

 

this is from 2 weeks ago tho 

[Red 98,356]

29 minutes ago, Zeth said:

taking advantage of someone for free service

Did you skip the part where she actually offered to pay or what?