Petrichor 4,640 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 NOTE: HUMAN TRIALS OF THIS VACCINE HAVE JUST BEGUN, SO THE VACCINE'S SAFETY HAS NOT YET BEEN PROVEN. HOWEVER, THIS IS PROMISING NEWS AND A HOPEFUL SILVER LINING. Six monkeys given a vaccine developed by the University of Oxford are said to be coronavirus-free 28 days after sustained exposure to the virus. The result is a promising early sign for the vaccine, which is also undergoing human trials. A working human version, however, remains months away even in the best-case scenario. The monkey experiment was carried out in late March by government scientists at the Rocky Mountain Laboratory in Hamilton, Montana, The New York Times reported Monday. Six rhesus macaques received a vaccine produced by the Jenner Institute and the Oxford Vaccine Group. They were then exposed to heavy levels of the coronavirus that were known to have previously sickened other monkeys. These monkeys suffered no ill effects, however, and remained healthy at least 28 days later, The Times said. 'The rhesus macaque is pretty much the closest thing we have to humans,' Vincent Munster, the head of the Virus Ecology Unit at the laboratory, told The Times.| The Jenner Institute, working as part of the Oxford Vaccine Group, is leading the global race for a coronavirus vaccine. The UK government has pledged £20 million, or $25 million, to the trial. The vaccine given to the rhesus macaques is called hAdOx1 nCoV-19. Human trials began Thursday and are expected to be finished in September. The process of developing a vaccine is long, and even having a usable product by September would be unusually fast. On Monday, the world's largest vaccine maker, the Serum Institute of India, said it would not wait for the trial to end and was preemptively making 40 million doses to save time in case it worked. ... Humans and macaques share about 93% of their DNA. Just because a vaccine appears to work on a macaque does not mean it will work on humans, however. https://www.businessinsider.com/monkeys-given-new-oxford-vaccine-coronavirus-free-strong-exposure-encouraging-2020-4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOPNick 3,486 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 It's good to hear, but no way there is gonna be a vaccine until end of Q1 (probably Q2) 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 It give a hope at least Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan 20,827 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I'm gonna be the booger in here and say f*ck animal testing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister G 10,512 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Good thing the president isn’t overseeing this; he’d recommend the use of Bleach mixed in with Hydroxychloroquine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam98 1,896 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Logan said: I'm gonna be the booger in here and say f*ck animal testing. Ethically speaking, you're right. However not even nature is ethical and we're just another example of a species surviving on the back of another ☄️ Before there was love, there was silence 🌌 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrichor 4,640 Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Logan said: I'm gonna be the booger in here and say f*ck animal testing. I absolutely agree with you, but right now, during the midst of a global health crisis, the ends absolutely justify the means here. They weren't injured, which is good. But we have to prove there is a marked benefit and safety threshold when using this formulation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan 20,827 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Just now, Sam98 said: Ethically speaking, you're right. However not even nature is ethical and we're just another example of a species surviving on the back of another I'm not sure what you mean when you say "not even nature is ethical." Ethics relates to moral and social principles that we as humans follow. If a dog does something bad you wouldn't/shouldn't hold them to the same standard as a human. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody 64,632 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 why do animals have to bear all that testing? no matter the raeson why... I really hate humanity sometimes and our cruel ways Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan 20,827 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Petrichor said: I absolutely agree with you, but right now, during the midst of a global health crisis, the ends absolutely justify the means here. They weren't injured, which is good. But we have to prove there is a marked benefit and safety threshold when using this formulation. It's definitely a controversial topic that challenges your view on utilitarianism - Actions for the "greater good." The good of our species though. I'm not going to deny that there isn't a clear answer here. To an empathetic animal lover though I can't help but be hurt by it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyanDante 6,238 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, ARTPOPNick said: It's good to hear, but no way there is gonna be a vaccine until end of Q1 (probably Q2) 2021 That's the usual case , where it generally takes 12 to 18th months, but they are saying they are going to skip the process if it's successful. I'm not very good with Social Mediaᵀᴹ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrichor 4,640 Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 Just now, Logan said: It's definitely a controversial topic that challenges your view on utilitarianism - Actions for the "greater good." The good of our species though. I'm not going to deny that there isn't a clear answer here. To an empathetic animal lover though I can't help but be hurt by it. I think we all can't help but lapse into a utilitarian viewpoint during a crisis. I've never strictly subscribed to that world view; I'm a big fan of Aristotle's ethical paradigm, specifically his cardinal virtues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Zelda 726 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Lmfao I read that as "Monkeys give Oxford COVID-19 vaccine" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 But did they try monkeys with obesity, diabetes, heart problems, renal problems, heavy smokers etc??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyCampana 279 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 this gives me hope !!!! praying that everything work !!!!!!!!!! Ally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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