Whispering 18,865 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Morphine Prince said: We had this discussion before, and you laughed it off, BUT 12% went Sanders to Trump. 12% is less than 25% “The 12% Bernie-to-Trump figure (and 24% Clinton-to-McCain figure)[see note below] comes from Brian Schaffner of the University of Massachusetts, Amherst who based it on extrapolations from the data in the Cooperative Congressional Election Study.“ The results vary, but 16% seems to be the lowest number you can get of Clinton to McCain people. And yes, McCain wasn’t as awful as Trump. Which is why less Sanders supporters switched to Trump than Clinton supporters switched to McCain. The 16 per cent comes from Politico. The 25 per cent of Sanders supporters who voted for someone else comes from FiveThirtyEight. Seventy five per cent of Sanders supporters voted for Trump, third party candidates or wrote someone in. A vote for a third party candidate was a vote for Trump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy 5,686 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, HybridAT said: Why are you continuing to move goalposts? What does that have to do with the original discussion? You're right. Let's disregard the children who have rotted to ash because of Biden, and the children dying in cages that his administration built. **** them! We need a GAY president like Pete! Him holding hands with Chasten is SO inspirational Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid AT 78 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 35 minutes ago, Buddy said: You're right. Let's disregard the children who have rotted to ash because of Biden, and the children dying in cages that his administration built. **** them! We need a GAY president like Pete! Him holding hands with Chasten is SO inspirational Pete isn't even running anymore so I'm not sure why you're going on weird, unhinged rants about him and his husband lol. It's my avi and my choice. I'll do whatever tf I want to do with it. Got any issues? The cages that you're talking about, while they did start under the Obama-Biden administration, the treatment of the children is visibly more inhumane under the Trump administration. The original discussion was about Biden's policy platform, and you've somehow resorted to a non-sequitur and derailed the discussion. Congrats I guess? "I was protected by the monks of Azarath, I was raised by my friends. They are my family, this is my home and you are not welcome here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 8 hours ago, Adakam said: Then they are fake people who dont believe in Bernie's movement and just want free stuff. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy 5,686 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Whispering said: The 16 per cent comes from Politico. The 25 per cent of Sanders supporters who voted for someone else comes from FiveThirtyEight. Seventy five per cent of Sanders supporters voted for Trump, third party candidates or wrote someone in. A vote for a third party candidate was a vote for Trump. 15 percent of Bernie voters voted for Trump which was less than how many Hillary supporters voted for McCain. OMG, you people cry "RUSSIAN BOTS!!!!!" while spewing lie after lie. I've read all of the 2016 election threads and nothing you said ever came to fruition. I hope you know that you are killing people. The anger people are building up at people like you will come back to bite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy 5,686 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, HybridAT said: Pete isn't even running anymore so I'm not sure why you're going in weird, unhinged rants about him and his husband lol. It's my avi and my choice. I'll do whatever tf I want to do with it. Got any issues? The cages that you're talking about, while they did start under the Obama-Biden administration, the treatment of the children is visibly more inhumane under the Trump administration. The original discussion was about Biden's policy platform, and you've somehow resorted to a non-sequitur and derailed the discussion. Congrats I guess? 68,000 die of lack of healthcare every single year. My cousin who was like my sister died because of the Iraq War. If I'm going to be real, I wish you were that statistic. How dare you gloat the convenience of not caring about these issues. You are a trash human being who needs to think more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid AT 78 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Buddy said: 68,000 die of lack of healthcare every single year. My cousin who was like my sister died because of the Iraq War. If I'm going to be real, I wish you were that statistic. How dare you gloat the convenience of not caring about these issues. You are a trash human being who needs to think more. I'm sorry for your loss, but you're projecting a lot of stuff here buddy. You don't even know anything about me. Log off, because you're clearly not well. Wishing other people death who don't politically agree with you, just because we share the same goals but not the same approaches? F*cking yikes. Really giving all the Bernie supporters a good image there. Even MAGAts sometimes display more compassion. Maybe you're the one who needs to think more. "I was protected by the monks of Azarath, I was raised by my friends. They are my family, this is my home and you are not welcome here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Buddy said: 15 percent of Bernie voters voted for Trump which was less than how many Hillary supporters voted for McCain. OMG, you people cry "RUSSIAN BOTS!!!!!" while spewing lie after lie. I've read all of the 2016 election threads and nothing you said ever came to fruition. I hope you know that you are killing people. The anger people are building up at people like you will come back to bite. Who is “you people” and who is crying “Russian Bots” in this thread? Your guy losing really upsets you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy 5,686 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, HybridAT said: I'm sorry for your loss, but you're projecting a lot of stuff here buddy. You don't even know anything about me. Log off, because you're clearly not well. Wishing other people dead who don't politically agree with you? F*cking yikes. Maybe you need to think more. If you were sorry my loss, you wouldn't be supporting a guy who fought to kill my cousin. Stop gaslighting me. You've shown your character in like 5 posts. Your intentions may be good, but your character is evil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy 5,686 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Whispering said: Who is “you people” and who is crying “Russian Bots” in this thread? Your guy losing really upsets you. I can't wait until you guys lose again in the general. It will be sweet sweet justice. I will fight against sociopathic neoliberals until the day I die. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid AT 78 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, Buddy said: If you were sorry my loss, you wouldn't be supporting a guy who fought to kill my cousin. Stop gaslighting me. You've shown your character in like 5 posts. Your intentions may be good, but your character is evil. Wow. This is so ridiculous I can't 😂 I see you're dealing really well with Bernie losing the primary "I was protected by the monks of Azarath, I was raised by my friends. They are my family, this is my home and you are not welcome here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy 5,686 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, HybridAT said: Wow. This is so ridiculous I can't 😂 I see you're dealing really well with Bernie losing the primary It's not about me. It's about the thousands who are going to die. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,565 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 12 hours ago, Whispering said: That’s not correct. According to Politico, Obama also won 84 percent of those Democrats who backed New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in the hard-fought presidential primaries. Also, McCain =/= Trump. For a “progressive” to vote for Trump, is a giant leap. The moderate is winning because there are more voters that showed up to vote for him. The progressives didn’t come out to vote for the progressive candidate. He didn’t convince enough people to get excited enough to come out to vote. My bad. *I meant would vote for McCain Receipts: https://news.gallup.com/poll/105691/mccain-vs-obama-28-clinton-backers-mccain.aspx For a progressive to vote for Trump is not a giant leap when you talk about economics. Trump 2016 was a fake (right wing) populist. Bernie 2020 is a real (left wing) populist. There is similarity, and yet again, I see people over emphasizing how important culture is over economics. As much as I’d love to see that not the be case, it’s just not reality. If we can talk about equivalents, like I said in a previous comment: Bernie 2016/20 = Obama 2008 (progressive candidate) Biden 2020 = Hillary 2008/16 (moderate candidates) I don’t know what you mean by progressives not voting for a progressive candidates, but many moderates just vote for whoever has a (D) beside their name. Populist progressives would never bc they realize parties can change platforms. “Moderate” (neoliberals) haven’t won in over 30 years since the 90s w Bill Clinton. They aren’t safe. What’s actually safe, is electing a progressive that brings in independents, and moderates who are just anti-republican and care about culture over policy, economics and voting records. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid AT 78 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, Buddy said: It's not about me. It's about the thousands who are going to die. You literally were wishing death upon me because I supported a candidate not named Bernie and were gloating about Trump winning the GE. Anybody who is gleeful about Trump winning doesn't care about progressive goals and is just a cosplay socialist trying hard with fake virtue-signaling tactics about claiming high moral ground. Good lord. What is WRONG with people. "I was protected by the monks of Azarath, I was raised by my friends. They are my family, this is my home and you are not welcome here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Buddy said: If you were sorry my loss, you wouldn't be supporting a guy who fought to kill my cousin. Stop gaslighting me. You've shown your character in like 5 posts. Your intentions may be good, but your character is evil. I don't understand this comment especially on this thread about 15% of Bernie supporters voting for Trump. 12% of Bernie voters voted for Trump in the last election Trump appointed Bolton as his National Security advisor. John Bolton was the man who literally coined the phrase "Weapons of Mass Destruction," under President Bush. His lie lead to the Iraq War. You're more mad at the people who believed the lie than those who started it? And now a bigger percentage of Bernie supporters will vote for Trump. Who are you really mad at Buddy? Go deprogram your brainwashing. Bernie praying on real victims and feeding them anger is disgusting. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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