Spain's COVID-19 death toll surpasses China's

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Reading through this thread, a certain user seem to have a really strong hate towards western governments

[Lilmonzter 2,864]

On 3/26/2020 at 12:36 AM, Economy said:

Let's keep calling it the Chinese virus tho...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now now 

I'm not the one to hold on to semantics but trump has a point they discovered it in November and officially recognised it as covid 19 in december

Tried to silence the whistle blowers 

Manufactured a media narrative against the USA 

Tried to shift any blame on their shortcomings by calling the critics rasict(?!)

I mean seriously and we are supposed to let go of our ire. 

China is currently being sued for 20 trillion dollars. 

[Economy 53,162]

11 minutes ago, Lilmonzter said:

Now now 

I'm not the one to hold on to semantics but trump has a point they discovered it in November and officially recognised it as covid 19 in december

Tried to silence the whistle blowers 

Manufactured a media narrative against the USA 

Tried to shift any blame on their shortcomings by calling the critics rasict(?!)

I mean seriously and we are supposed to let go of our ire. 

China is currently being sued for 20 trillion dollars. 

Yeah but that anger should be directed at the government of China

 

But by calling it the Chinese virus u put a stigma on the Chinese people as a whole that have no fault in this

 

Just look at the cases of abuse against Asians living in North America from ignorant people. That kind of rhetoric does not help

 

[Rio 5,088]

5 hours ago, ltlmnstr said:

I'm really tired of Westerns blaming an entire country with multiple provinces, each with a different set of laws, for the virus

Do you want to go back to calling HIV/AIDS Gay Cancer?

And chill out with the imperialism

You might as say these  Asians need to like White people (when the most of the world got corona from traveling Italians)

Guess what? Don't put words in my mouth sis. Didn't once BLAME an entire country and if I did, I didn't mean it. I said where it originated. I should have specifically said Wuhan as the province/region of origin, but, my bad. But that's a fact. The uncleanliness and the wet markets are my proof. Bats harbour coronaviruses - a scientific fact. Scientists have been warning against this for years now, especially with bat consumption. Look it up, cos I ain't doing your research for you. Tbh, I could also be from Asia or some random island and I'd still have this same perspective and view on the matter, so i dont see what on earth me being "western" has to do with it. AIDs didn't originate with gay people, according to evidence. But evidence tells us COVID-19 came from China, like SARS. Wet markets were the likely cause of transmission. Many of my loved ones may pay for this, because or certain community's unhygienic practices and novelty/exotic eating behaviours. 

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2 hours ago, mezzanine said:

Don't excuse others stupid comments with more stupid comments, most of the world got corona because China covered it for weeks while it got spread exactly as the government (not the Chinese people) wanted, now economy is collapsed, and stocks are being sold at ridiculous prices, which is the point of all this; war on economy. You all just need to check last years headlines, no more, about the tax changes and war between US' and China's governments, we're just in the middle of this sadistic game, period.

Stupid comments? Sis, you're going on about speculative conspiracy theories. Neither of us are the kook. I too believe China covered the statistics and outbreak but I'm entirely sure they did it for the reasons you're saying

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2 hours ago, Lilmonzter said:

China is currently being sued for 20 trillion dollars. 

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4 hours ago, Rio said:

Stupid comments? Sis, you're going on about speculative conspiracy theories. Neither of us are the kook. I too believe China covered the statistics and outbreak but I'm entirely sure they did it for the reasons you're saying

I don't understand what does it have to do to explain a theory, which is totally plausible since I've linked every thing I've stated (and not conspiracy blogs, the major newspapers, etc.), with saying that "asians need to like white people" or "when the most of the world got corona from traveling italians", which is dumb because it's actually people from all around the world but italians the ones who did spread it out of Italy, due to the Milan Fashion Week and then the Paris Fashion Week - like, literally, most of the models, model agencies, bloggers, influencers, photographers, designers and their crews were french, USAmericans, etc. etc. - then football teams, and more major events; these ones are the ones that brought it to my hometown... by ourselves. Of course it wasn't the only factor, but it was a big one.

But then you say that you believe on what I say, so I have to admit that I'm confused

[Lilmonzter 2,864]

11 hours ago, Economy said:

Yeah but that anger should be directed at the government of China

 

But by calling it the Chinese virus u put a stigma on the Chinese people as a whole that have no fault in this

 

Just look at the cases of abuse against Asians living in North America from ignorant people. That kind of rhetoric does not help

 

Yep 

But I'm simply saying I see where people are coming from calling it the 'Chinese' virus. Some are rasict but some have these undercurrents of anger against the chinese government with good reason. 

I think the Chinese government  needs to be held accountable for its part in the spread.

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Please everyone take care and be careful

In Italy the situation is desperate. All of medical assistance which is not an emergency cannot be treated (I am a nurse), they are post-posing surgeries even big and urgent once (except for oncological, and really critical life-saving type of interventions). Schools are closed, 80% of type of shops are closed, banks and financial facilities open just to the public once a week through a reservation system. I need to go to the dentist and I can't.
My mum had a big surgery last monday and she is coming out tomorrow, but since she may have catched the virus in the hospital itself (hospitals are full of cases) I will need to create a sanitary quarantine in which I separate my mom and dad, and I need to give treatments to both of them (my dad has dementia and clinical situations, and mum had a tutor removed), so I will need to sanitise myself and the house every time somebody need to use the bathroom and every time I need to give assistance to mom and dad, by changing my clothes and having a shower plus sanitise myself. Hope I'll make it right.

Police stops you in the streets, you can go out just for get food (also other restrictions applied on this), medical reasons, it is mandatory to wear face mask protection (which you cannot find anywhere, people are sewing them themselves) and disposable gloves. All other stores and factories are closed except for the ones medical related (except dentists, which you need to have really huge problem to be taken care of), public transportation has been diminished of 50%, you can walk your dog just 200 mt from your home.
The sanitary emergency is set until July 31th, and just if things will get better and peaks will be reached all over the country.

It is really hard.