codymonster 8,623 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, littlepotter said: Granted. Is it also mandatory to publicly support their actions? I don't know enough about the IDF to comment on that, but from what I do know, there are many moral layers to the situation, especially if you are directly tied to the conflict. For example, some people saw the attacks on the Middle East by US as necessary after 9/11; some saw it as bad. I think both points of view have merit though, and I do understand where both are coming from. It all depended on the point of view you had and your connections to either side. It's not always as black and white as we sometimes make it out to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, codymonster said: I don't know enough about the IDF to comment on that, but from what I do know, there are many moral layers to situations, especially if you are directly tied to the conflict. Some people saw the attacks on the Middle East as necessary after 9/11; some saw it as bad. I think both points of view have merit though, and I do understand where both are coming from. Killing innocent people is NEVER right and you should not understand that concept at all.. Publicly supporting literal killings and illegal land stealing is awful and she should not be in the situation where we praise her because she sang a song with few of her ''celeb friends'' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 117,731 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, codymonster said: She is from Israel and it's mandatory to serve. It’s not an excuse, you can always say no and fight against it. me and a group of other 17-18 years old were against it for obvious reason, we were sent to 6 months in jail because we refused to serve the IDF until the end, they came to our houses and took us by force. Am I gonna do it again? Hell yeah I think every Israeli should fight against the mandatory service And the corruption of the IDF and it’s war crimes.. “most humanitarian military in the world” my ass.. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilmonzter 2,864 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Make yourselves feel better it's what all of this is about You Sing C'est la vie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Life 118,907 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 I wish my ears were chopped off better I had to hear that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teletubby 150,845 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 "You b*tch!" ~ Rat Boy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsemanche 93,963 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 27 minutes ago, codymonster said: It's not always as black and white as we sometimes make it out to be. idk stealing people's land and building an apartheid state and committing genocide sounds pretty straightforwardly bad to me Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 75,147 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 23 minutes ago, August3 said: Now I can't watch Wonder Woman 84 That's ruined for me. You can watch without giving them money. That's what my friends who follow BDS do. You can separate the art from the artist 23 minutes ago, codymonster said: I don't know enough about the IDF to comment on that, but from what I do know, there are many moral layers to the situation, especially if you are directly tied to the conflict. For example, some people saw the attacks on the Middle East by US as necessary after 9/11; some saw it as bad. I think both points of view have merit though, and I do understand where both are coming from. It all depended on the point of view you had and your connections to either side. It's not always as black and white as we sometimes make it out to be. Well, as someone who lives in the middle east, who is directly affected, and whose father was almost killed in the 2006 war Gadot served in, I think it's my right to have strong feelings about this. Plus, careful, because most of what you said sounds like propaganda that aims to seem "moderate" and reconcile both sides but is in reality a way to give the illusion of a level playing field when all evidence overwhelmingly points to the IDF being in the wrong. If you care about having your facts straight you should do a little more research and not fall into the convenient centrist position chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 75,147 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 23 minutes ago, River said: It’s not an excuse, you can always say no and fight against it. me and a group of other 17-18 years old were against it for obvious reason, we were sent to 6 months in jail because we refused to serve the IDF until the end, they came to our houses and took us by force. Am I gonna do it again? Hell yeah I think every Israeli should fight against the mandatory service And the corruption of the IDF and it’s war crimes.. “most humanitarian military in the world” my ass.. Wow. All my respect to you sir. This takes BALLS. chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsemanche 93,963 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, River said: It’s not an excuse, you can always say no and fight against it. me and a group of other 17-18 years old were against it for obvious reason, we were sent to 6 months in jail because we refused to serve the IDF until the end, they came to our houses and took us by force. Am I gonna do it again? Hell yeah I think every Israeli should fight against the mandatory service And the corruption of the IDF and it’s war crimes.. “most humanitarian military in the world” my ass.. SO much respect for you Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Gurl bye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Bitch 10,513 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, littlepotter said: You can watch without giving them money. That's what my friends who follow BDS do. You can separate the art from the artist I would feel weird to watch a movie where the main character is played by someone who supports IDF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 117,731 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, littlepotter said: Wow. All my respect to you sir. This takes BALLS. 4 minutes ago, catsandlabneh said: SO much respect for you Thanks Imagine how mind corrupting it is to give a 18 years old kid a gun, power and the control of other people.. it's sick. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
codymonster 8,623 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 21 minutes ago, littlepotter said: You can watch without giving them money. That's what my friends who follow BDS do. You can separate the art from the artist Well, as someone who lives in the middle east, who is directly affected, and whose father was almost killed in the 2006 war Gadot served in, I think it's my right to have strong feelings about this. Plus, careful, because most of what you said sounds like propaganda that aims to seem "moderate" and reconcile both sides but is in reality a way to give the illusion of a level playing field when all evidence overwhelmingly points to the IDF being in the wrong. If you care about having your facts straight you should do a little more research and not fall into the convenient centrist position Knowing what I now know, I totally respect and understand your strong feelings towards this. Like I said, from my limited understanding, there are terrible things that have taken place on BOTH sides, and as Gal is directly attached to Israel, I just was trying to point out that she would naturally lean towards that side. You, however, clearly are living that, so I do get where you are coming from. But you have challenged me, and I do intend to research this more, as I don't know enough about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RahrahWitch 6,985 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Read the room Gal (Gadot) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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