Sold Out Shows

[drinkmytears 2,332]

Gaga's getting great reviews. Madonna isn't. People are booing Madonna and walking out. Madonna has fans from 30 years ago, all of their kids they take to the show, friends, family, all of the Gays, etc. Madonna's ticket prices are way more expensive, and her tour was announced long before Gaga's in the regions where they are competing.

Why does she have to be brought up? What about Coldplay who's doing better than Gaga?

[wecanbestrong 0]

Bottom line - a little more promo wouldn't have gone astray and helped to sell more tickets. Show business is about perception and there is a perception that Lady Gaga is underperforming despite mainly stellar successes. Sure I'm happy with the tour so far with the best part being that people realize she can be awesome live and that will carry over into subsequent tours. But why not maximize the opportunity? At the end of the day it doesn't matter to me personally - but why not go all out? And I'm sorry but getting fat in the middle of the tour was unforgivable. Yeah Body Revolution bull**** aside (a smokescreen to throw mud in your eye to distract that she was smoking pot, partying and eating **** every day - TRUTH TEA), a popstar needs a minimum level of physical fitness to be able to do a pop show and letting herself get our of shape was unprofessional and embarrassing. Maybe a bit punk rock, but it didn't really show dedication to performance. Thankfully somebody spoke to her and the weight came off real quick. And I agree - get most of the monsters off the stage and do the ****ing show properly. Half sung songs and abridged versions get sloppier and sloppier. Hopefully the reboot addresses this. Having said that I loved, loved, loved the show.

[StefJAGermanotta 2]

Bottom line - a little more promo wouldn't have gone astray and helped to sell more tickets. Show business is about perception and there is a perception that Lady Gaga is underperforming despite mainly stellar successes. Sure I'm happy with the tour so far with the best part being that people realize she can be awesome live and that will carry over into subsequent tours. But why not maximize the opportunity? At the end of the day it doesn't matter to me personally - but why not go all out? And I'm sorry but getting fat in the middle of the tour was unforgivable. Yeah Body Revolution bull**** aside (a smokescreen to throw mud in your eye to distract that she was smoking pot, partying and eating **** every day - TRUTH TEA), a popstar needs a minimum level of physical fitness to be able to do a pop show and letting herself get our of shape was unprofessional and embarrassing. Maybe a bit punk rock, but it didn't really show dedication to performance. Thankfully somebody spoke to her and the weight came off real quick. And I agree - get most of the monsters off the stage and do the ****ing show properly. Half sung songs and abridged versions get sloppier and sloppier. Hopefully the reboot addresses this. Having said that I loved, loved, loved the show.

LOL re: "Body Revolution bull**** aside..." that was very funny. But the brilliance of this is that Gaga CAN be morbidly obese down the road, and STILL perform, b/c b---h has her piano, her voice, and her songwriting abilities, like Elton John. Though for her health's sake, hopefully it won't come to this (don't want Gaga to have a stroke or heart attack). But I think Gaga has something that no one can take from her and that's her talent, and that's why her career will NOT end when she gets older and therefore too "old" for pop music standards. For that matter, against pop music traditional standards, the general population thinks she's ugly and not a raving beauty (though she's s-xier than Katy Perry, but that's me). Anyway, think about it, down the road when she's in her 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s, she can still sing her heart out and age gracefully and doesn't have to have her thong, ass and titties hanging out. That's why Gaga will undoubtedly be a legend, she's going to have a 30, hell a 50 year career until she passes away. I see her career trajectory like Tony Bennett's.

[StefJAGermanotta 2]

Gaga's getting great reviews. Madonna isn't. People are booing Madonna and walking out. Madonna has fans from 30 years ago, all of their kids they take to the show, friends, family, all of the Gays, etc. Madonna's ticket prices are way more expensive, and her tour was announced long before Gaga's in the regions where they are competing.

Why does she have to be brought up? What about Coldplay who's doing better than Gaga?

This. The point is that Gaga's been getting such amazing reviews, and the people who have seen her are in complete awe, as noted by real music critics of her BTW tour, and they will come back to see Gaga due to the universal rave reviews (I haven't seen a bad one thus far) from critics and from real audience members who actually saw her live (not some idiot on youtube saying that she sucks). Her audience is completely adoring. She has the numbers now, but more important, she is garnering the artistic credibility and reputation of being an exceptional performer who gives her all, so when she tours again for ARTPOP, she will have higher and higher numbers. This is called building her audience, reputation and her brand. On the other hand, Madonna is slowly destroying her reputation by being disrespectful to her fans, which is a shame as Madonna used to be the master at branding and marketing.

[28386 0]

Well, it doesn't bode well if you're being booed and losing fans.

She has been getting 'Booed' since about 2002...And its obviously not by fans just the GP she got booed this year again for supporting Obama,The Re-Invention Tour etc...

Loosing fans? If someone says they 'aren't a fan any more' over her views on something or a mistake they were never fans just like Gaga lost plenty over her 'changing' and the whole FurGate

[ditaparlo 0]

The fact is that the expectations were too high for this leg. But these are great numbers, actually.

Look at the MDNA numbers in SA: 12 shows, 420k tickets, grossing 58M.

BTWB (including Puerto Rico): 12 shows, 350k tickets, grossing 30M.

And the BTWT has been put on sale months later, and with some small venues (MDNA had only big stadiums). The difference doesnt seem so big.

[bumblebee 2,528]

Gaga progress as a touring force is clearly seen with the Born This Way Ball.

Gaga played for 2,500,000 people during the Monster Ball Tour and it resulted in $227 M ticket gross. Now even with the biggest possible attendance during the North America Leg Born This Way Ball would have not more than 2,100,000 viewers worldwide.

With a 16% decrease in attendance cause there are less dates she is expected to either repeat the gross or experience a (maximum) 7% decrease in gross. I

t means that more people are acknowledging her as a kick-ass performer! And they are ready to pay for the expensive tickets and go see dat b---h! This tour will most importantly establish her as even a greater performer than she was thought to be, and with the proper preparations and good material on ARTPOP get the ground ready for a bigger tour. The Ball has shown she is now playing average 30,000 people in a city, which means she can aim a stadium ARTPOP tour outside the USA

[StrawberryBlond 14,202]

I am still refusing to believe that these new figures are real and I can't change information on the OP until its been independently verified by Billboard, so I'm just going to file it under "reported but not verified" for now. She really only made $36.6 million from 12 massive stadiums and three large arenas? We saw photos of those dates and they were all packed out. Plus, the tickets in LA and Russia were the most expenive of the whole tour and extra tickets were added in Costa Rica, Sao Paulo, Paraguay and Johannesburg due to such high demand. This means that those dates pulled in rougly 2.3 million each. Really? Gaga has made more than that playing in arenas and yet those sold out stadiums only pulled in that little? I'm wondering why Billboard still won't update box office scores because it's getting ridiculous now. Every major tour is either on a break currently or has finished, so why are they keeping us waiting?

[DrCake 1,743]

I am still refusing to believe that these new figures are real and I can't change information on the OP until its been independently verified by Billboard, so I'm just going to file it under "reported but not verified" for now. She really only made $36.6 million from 12 massive stadiums and three large arenas? We saw photos of those dates and they were all packed out. Plus, the tickets in LA and Russia were the most expenive of the whole tour and extra tickets were added in Costa Rica, Sao Paulo, Paraguay and Johannesburg due to such high demand. This means that those dates pulled in rougly 2.3 million each. Really? Gaga has made more than that playing in arenas and yet those sold out stadiums only pulled in that little? I'm wondering why Billboard still won't update box office scores because it's getting ridiculous now. Every major tour is either on a break currently or has finished, so why are they keeping us waiting?

My exact thoughts!

I can't understand how a show (Sao Paulo for example) that had over 50k audience and such massive prices could have only pulled around 3-4M. Even if there were some discounts, 80-90% of the tickets were sold at the full price for that date and if you only take the General Admission for example (which had a 250 USD average price) and you consider there were around 15k on that ground zone (even if there were more) you still get over 3.7M USD (even without the rest of 35.000 people) and yet the show has such a low gross. I know that there were some discounts, but the actual prices were MASSIVE and some discounts here and there couldn't have hurt that gross so badly. This may sound stupid, but I even expected this show to gross over 8-10M and it only grossed half of it.

[TheMadridHash 4]

I am still refusing to believe that these new figures are real and I can't change information on the OP until its been independently verified by Billboard, so I'm just going to file it under "reported but not verified" for now. She really only made $36.6 million from 12 massive stadiums and three large arenas? We saw photos of those dates and they were all packed out. Plus, the tickets in LA and Russia were the most expenive of the whole tour and extra tickets were added in Costa Rica, Sao Paulo, Paraguay and Johannesburg due to such high demand. This means that those dates pulled in rougly 2.3 million each. Really? Gaga has made more than that playing in arenas and yet those sold out stadiums only pulled in that little? I'm wondering why Billboard still won't update box office scores because it's getting ridiculous now. Every major tour is either on a break currently or has finished, so why are they keeping us waiting?

maybe they'll release them in january

but maybe they want to protect the tour's "sold-out" name because they know if they post latin l¿shows they'll have to post maybe half of them as "not sold out" so the tour will lose what buildt around Asia, oceania, Europe & South Africa

so this could be their way of "posting the receipts" this wa they don't post each date

Edited December 29, 2012 by TheMadridHash

[netoschultz 0]

I am still refusing to believe that these new figures are real and I can't change information on the OP until its been independently verified by Billboard, so I'm just going to file it under "reported but not verified" for now. She really only made $36.6 million from 12 massive stadiums and three large arenas? We saw photos of those dates and they were all packed out. Plus, the tickets in LA and Russia were the most expenive of the whole tour and extra tickets were added in Costa Rica, Sao Paulo, Paraguay and Johannesburg due to such high demand. This means that those dates pulled in rougly 2.3 million each. Really? Gaga has made more than that playing in arenas and yet those sold out stadiums only pulled in that little? I'm wondering why Billboard still won't update box office scores because it's getting ridiculous now. Every major tour is either on a break currently or has finished, so why are they keeping us waiting?

It was something like this

Mexico - 2M

Costa Rica - 2.5M

Colombia - 2M

Rio de Janeiro - 2.5M

São Paulo - 4.5M

Porto Alegre - 1.5M

Argentina - 4M

Chile 4M

Peru - 1.2M

Paraguay - 2.5M

Johannesburg - 2.7M

Cape Town - 1.2M

Norway - 2M

St. Petersburg - 1.5M

Russia - 3M

2.8 milion average per show in South America.. it's the biggest of the intire tour.. The numbers aren't bad..

[netoschultz 0]

maybe they'll release them in january

but maybe they want to protect the tour's "sold-out" name because they know if they post latin l¿shows they'll have to post maybe half of them as "not sold out" so the tour will lose what buildt around Asia, oceania, Europe & South Africa

so this could be their way of "posting the receipts" this wa they don't post each date

Mostly of Europe dates weren't sold out and they still reported as sold out... Like Bulgaria.. Romania.. Latvia.. Estonia.. Lithuania.. Denmark.. Netherlands.. Ireland.. Second date in London.. Nice.. All of Madonna's European stadiums weren't sold out and they still reported it was..

[TheMadridHash 4]

Mostly of Europe dates weren't sold out and they still reported as sold out... Like Bulgaria.. Romania.. Latvia.. Estonia.. Lithuania.. Denmark.. Netherlands.. Ireland.. Second date in London.. Nice.. All of Madonna's European stadiums weren't sold out and they still reported it was..

open grounds, nobody expected her to sell out 70-80k tickets in such small countries i mean, the attendance was about what it would have been in an ARENA show, so it's okay

you CAN'T report in a 50k Stadium in Peru that 20k ticket solds mark a Sold Out Show

or a 55k Capacity in Colombia, marking 25k attendance as sold out would be pretty lame

the 2nd London show was 45k in attendance and the sold out mark is in 55k, you see the difference, i can accept a 10k "arrengement" but more than that is just too obvious

there's a BIG difference between madonna's shows and gaga's around europe, the ticket price revenue makes madonna's shows even at half attendance in stadiums more succesful than for example gaga's 60k+ show in Johannesburg, so the importance is if the show has met the expectations of revenue set by the producing company

[netoschultz 0]

open grounds, nobody expected her to sell out 70-80k tickets in such small countries i mean, the attendance was about what it would have been in an ARENA show, so it's okay

you CAN'T report in a 50k Stadium in Peru that 20k ticket solds mark a Sold Out Show

or a 55k Capacity in Colombia, marking 25k attendance as sold out would be pretty lame

the 2nd London show was 45k in attendance and the sold out mark is in 55k, you see the difference, i can accept a 10k "arrengement" but more than that is just too obvious

there's a BIG difference between madonna's shows and gaga's around europe, the ticket price revenue makes madonna's shows even at half attendance in stadiums more succesful than for example gaga's 60k+ show in Johannesburg, so the importance is if the show has met the expectations of revenue set by the producing company

They've already done this to Copenhagen concert.. Stadium capacity for concerts is 50.000.. she has sold 27k and it was marked as sold out

Shakira has sold 13k out of 20k in the same stadium that Gaga has performed.. Probably.. they didn't put all of the 50k tickets on sale for Gaga too.. so they can say it was sold out..

Colombia's stadium capacity is 36k.. not 50k.. and this is for football.. for concerts probably is less than that.

Please.. don't compare the chepeast Gaga's tickets with the most expensive Madonna's tickets.. if you want to compare.. Say something about South America or Asia.

Edited December 30, 2012 by netoschultz

[28386 0]

Guys where are these numbers coming from? If they are real I will be so Annoyed how the hell could she make under 1.2m in Capetown that's less than Milan!?!?!?