StarstruckIllusion 53,580 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Adakam said: And trump would sweep Bernie with anti-socialism rethoric, fueled by stuff like his comments on Castro, and also his heart attack. Yeah good luck beating trump with that. Absolutely not. Bernie is a Denmark-like socialist. Not Venezuela. There is no commie/extreme socialist candidate to fight against, and when Bernie makes that clearer, there’s nothing to ding him on. Funny how Bernie’s heart attack concern was cancelled by doctors in December yet it’s an issue again. Funny how Obama didn’t get dragged for praising Castro the same way Bernie did. When Biden yells at voters, is against hot button issues, has a **** voting record w war, and supported the sell off of jobs - people actually care about that. Bernie can not relate to that. Trump will sweep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franch Toast 27,745 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Berine is playing far too nice. I wonder if he's staying in just long enough for the Sunday debate/town hall/whatever it is and then plans to drop out, so he's trying to unite the party... She/Her/Hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleficent 6 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, Adakam said: And trump would sweep Bernie with anti-socialism rethoric, fueled by stuff like his comments on Castro, and also his heart attack. Yeah good luck beating trump with that. what we needed was a hot smart younger woman who would turn Trump into a bubbling mess lmaooo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adakam 2 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said: Absolutely not. Bernie is a Denmark-like socialist. Not Venezuela. There is no commie/extreme socialist candidate to fight against, and when Bernie makes that clearer, there’s nothing to ding him on. Funny how Bernie’s heart attack concern was cancelled by doctors in December yet it’s an issue again. Funny how Obama didn’t get dragged for praising Castro the same way Bernie did. When Biden yells at voters, is against hot button issues, has a **** voting record w war, and supported the sell off of jobs - people actually care about that. Bernie can not relate to that. Trump will sweep. *facepalm* You dont need to explain any of that to me. Its a unbreakable wall of propaganda Bernie would have to go against. Theres no "once he makes it clearer". You are seriously underestimating what anti-socialism can do against Bernie. Same with his heart attack, they wont care if it was mild, they wont care if it doctors said he was fine, Hillary's health was a huge issue and it was just some coughing and the time she almost fainted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,184 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 I love Bernie so much, but one of the faults he's had in this campaign is being too nice towards other candidates who aren't going to give him that same kind of respect. Like, Bernie, this is a primary campaign you're running. Your message needs to be, "Biden cannot beat Trump! I can beat Trump and here's why...". To say that Biden can beat Trump really just invalidates your entire campaign. I hope that he goes hard on Biden on Sunday's debate. Bernie shouldn't be holding back. There's only one way to win now, and it's to go big and attack Biden on policy issues and electability. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,580 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Adakam said: *facepalm* You dont need to explain any of that to me. Its a unbreakable wall of propaganda Bernie would have to go against. Theres no "once he makes it clearer". You are seriously underestimating what anti-socialism can do against Bernie. Same with his heart attack, they wont care if it was mild, they wont care if it doctors said he was fine, Hillary's health was a huge issue and it was just some coughing and the time she almost fainted. Omg slay, so glad you do get it But... the right are already calling Joe Biden a socialist. They’d both have propaganda against them but I think Bernie’s would be lessor and he’d be way stronger to fight against it. CNN and MSNBC would get dragged if they crossed their nominee, regardless of who it is. I’m still hoping for Bernie idk. This Sunday debate is gonna be dramatic to say the least Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adakam 2 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said: Omg slay, so glad you do get it But... the right are already calling Joe Biden a socialist. They’d both have propaganda against them but I think Bernie’s would be lessor and he’d be way stronger to fight against it. CNN and MSNBC would get dragged if they crossed their nominee, regardless of who it is. I’m still hoping for Bernie idk. This Sunday debate is gonna be dramatic to say the least But people see Biden like an Obama 2.0, even if they call him socialist, they know its as far as theyre going to get. Keep in mind that the economy is trump's biggest asset, and while people can be sure that Biden wont screw that economy up, they can see Bernie as a gamble. Biden will receive personal attacks, but people trust his politics, while Bernie will recieve policy attacks, but people trust him as a person. Im not sure which one is more exploitable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 76,617 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Adakam said: So its allowed for Bernie to lie when its politically convenient for him? Hmmmmmmm..... Bernie fans are quite interesting.... Your logic is definitely what's interesting here. chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,930 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 38 minutes ago, M Monstre said: I love Bernie so much, but one of the faults he's had in this campaign is being too nice towards other candidates who aren't going to give him that same kind of respect. Like, Bernie, this is a primary campaign you're running. Your message needs to be, "Biden cannot beat Trump! I can beat Trump and here's why...". To say that Biden can beat Trump really just invalidates your entire campaign. I hope that he goes hard on Biden on Sunday's debate. Bernie shouldn't be holding back. There's only one way to win now, and it's to go big and attack Biden on policy issues and electability. It's something to really respect about Bernie cuz politics is always dirty and he's more civilized which is so rare to see in politics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,184 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Economy said: It's something to really respect about Bernie cuz politics is always dirty and he's more civilized which is so rare to see in politics I mean, yeah, it's great to see that he's certainly not like every other politician, but also, this is a primary race. If he wants to win, he needs to stop saying, "My friend Joe..." and "Joe can beat Trump". Saying that he can defeat Trump completely undercuts your entire campaign. Because it's like, if he can beat Trump, why are you running anyway? 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,930 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, M Monstre said: I mean, yeah, it's great to see that he's certainly not like every other politician, but also, this is a primary race. If he wants to win, he needs to stop saying, "My friend Joe..." and "Joe can beat Trump". Saying that he can defeat Trump completely undercuts your entire campaign. Because it's like, if he can beat Trump, why are you running anyway? Because running isn't just about beating Trump But anyway I wasnt commenting on his skills or effectiveness of his tactics in political races... I was talking about the fact that he isn't a dirty politician. Supporter or not, anyone who isn't biased can see that I still prefered Warren policy wise but that doesn't mean I can't acknowledge that in terms of character and integrity Bernie was clearly always the best candidate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 7 hours ago, M Monstre said: I love Bernie so much, but one of the faults he's had in this campaign is being too nice towards other candidates who aren't going to give him that same kind of respect. Like, Bernie, this is a primary campaign you're running. Your message needs to be, "Biden cannot beat Trump! I can beat Trump and here's why...". To say that Biden can beat Trump really just invalidates your entire campaign. I hope that he goes hard on Biden on Sunday's debate. Bernie shouldn't be holding back. There's only one way to win now, and it's to go big and attack Biden on policy issues and electability. If he does not want to attack or criticize, the least he can do it not compliment him. But why go out of your way and compliment him everywhere? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromaticunt 5,529 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Trump is gonna win because evil always wins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 17 hours ago, Faysalaaa said: Then why not drop out and endorse Biden? why stay in the race? hes also been doing this the whole campaign, not just now. It’s politics. Bernie is a politician. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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