Dangerous Man 9,245 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 That's the thing: Beyonce and Gaga, when they do commercial music, or music that they think is commercial, it still ends up being relatively risky to release. I honestly don't think either Gaga or Beyonce will ever again go flat-out commercial. And singles, as commercial as they are, don't sell albums anymore. PROMOTION sells albums. I'm surprised FF sold what it did with only 2 promotional performances in the US. People always say that Britney stans cling to the promotion excuse to justify FF's sales, but that IS a valid reason for the album underperforming more so than the excuse Beyonce stans use (lack of singles success). So, quite frankly, since they both will most likely find themselves in similar situations (releasing more commercial music IN COMPARISON to the singles from their previous records, but still relatively risky in comparison to what is popular at the moment). And I predict that Beyonce will outsell Gaga. Especially now with her injury and all, Gaga might just promote less. but did Teenage Dream got a large sales boosts and outsold BTW in the US because of its singles success? "A little less conversation and a little more touch my body." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROSEIDON 1,214 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 but did Teenage Dream got a large sales boosts and outsold BTW in the US because of its singles success? Teenage Dream had a re-release and has been out 9 months longer than BTW and is only like 300 - 400k ahead of it in sales though. Katy's singles really didn't help the album sales very much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Man 9,245 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 More commercial songs does not necessarily lead to greater album sales. It may help singles sell better though. Take, for example, Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded. Most of its songs were geared towards pop radio, and were much more 'commercial'. However, the sales of the album did not exceed those of Pink Friday, an album with less 'commercial' songs. but it can also help. "A little less conversation and a little more touch my body." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy8923 9 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I will have that in mind I'll make sure to scalp b---hes if it ends up being true. :fan: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Art 1,773 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 but it can also help. I suppose it can, but it is in absolutely no way a guarantee. The music actually has to be good to sell albums. I'm not saying commercial music can't be good, but rather that commercial music is not always good. But this is GaGa we're talking about, so I'm positive she'll find the perfect way to blend both. She's done it before, and I know she can do it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Man 9,245 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Teenage Dream had a re-release and has been out 9 months longer than BTW and is only like 300 - 400k ahead of it in sales though. Katy's singles really didn't help the album sales very much but still is selling more than BTW and we can't deny the fact that the singles success is the reason why it surpass 2M mark. Before Firework, the album was being snubbed by the GP but after that, it climbed inside the top 40, then in the top 20 and later in the top 10. "A little less conversation and a little more touch my body." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy8923 9 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Also, I honestly don't think even commercial songs sell albums. I think the GP yearns for more interesting music. The riskier singles you have, the more interest the GP might have in buying your record. Quite honestly, I bet the reason Britney didn't go Platinum with FF is because of the commercial music. I think it drove away potential buyers because they expected the album to be full of generic dance tracks (and it was an album full of generic dance tracks) so they didn't even bother to listen to the album, much less buy it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Man 9,245 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 It's not always true. Why do you think GGB is Riri's most successful album to date? Yeah because of its re-release but most of all, it's because it has 4 commercial mega hits. "A little less conversation and a little more touch my body." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris777 112 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Also, I honestly don't think even commercial songs sell albums. I think the GP yearns for more interesting music. The riskier singles you have, the more interest the GP might have in buying your record. Quite honestly, I bet the reason Britney didn't go Platinum with FF is because of the commercial music. I think it drove away potential buyers because they expected the album to be full of generic dance tracks (and it was an album full of generic dance tracks) so they didn't even bother to listen to the album, much less buy it. Okay... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy8923 9 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 It's not always true. Why do you think GGB is Riri's most successful album to date? Yeah because of its re-release but most of all, it's because it has 4 commercial mega hits. Yes, but Umbrella was arguably the driving force of that album because it was one of the freshest, most innovative songs of that year with a huge amount of critical acclaim. The song itself slayed but it was not generic. What I mean to say is, the only time singles success aids album sales heavily in when the song is really innovative and contrasts what's on radio. If it's a generic song, it won't do much for album sales. That's my point. But I understand your point of view and singles success does help. Even only if it's a little bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Man 9,245 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Yes, but Umbrella was arguably the driving force of that album because it was one of the freshest, most innovative songs of that year with a huge amount of critical acclaim. The song itself slayed but it was not generic. What I mean to say is, the only time singles success aids album sales heavily in when the song is really innovative and contrasts what's on radio. If it's a generic song, it won't do much for album sales. That's my point. But I understand your point of view and singles success does help. Even only if it's a little bit. you were saying commercial songs not generic. Generic = commercial but commercial is NOT ALWAYS generic.and I wasn't saying generic songs can help the album sales but the commercial. "A little less conversation and a little more touch my body." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy8923 9 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 you were saying commercial songs not generic. Generic = commercial but commercial is NOT ALWAYS generic. Oh OK. I see what you mean. Well, when I referred to commercial I was correlating it to being generic. But a commercial song can be non-generic, but in my previous posts, just to avoid confusion, when I said commercial, I also meant generic. :P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Man 9,245 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Oh OK. I see what you mean. Well, when I referred to commercial I was correlating it to being generic. But a commercial song can be non-generic, but in my previous posts, just to avoid confusion, when I said commercial, I also meant generic. :P that is also what I mean though. But anyway, I think we are not really contradicting because your point is that commercial songs may not help the album to sell while mine says that commercial songs can help in selling an album. :laughga: "A little less conversation and a little more touch my body." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy8923 9 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Yeah, Jude, sis, I just completely lost track of what we were even arguing. :laughga: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Man 9,245 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 ;) -------- btw, out-of-topic but why Google (1) is viewing this thread? and the last day I saw Facebook (1), Bing (1), Yahoo (1), etc are doing the same thing. what does it suppose to mean? "A little less conversation and a little more touch my body." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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