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Well, at least the comeback single of Justin Timberlake has already made history. Yay! S&T scores the highest debut of a male artist in the Pop Songs chart and the highest first-week plays with over 6000, surpassing Gaga's BTW, which got over over 4,600 plays on its debut week back in 2011.

Not doing nearly as well on iTunes as BTW did though. Does he have any promo lined up? It's already fallen out of the top 5 after its first week of release and he had a lot of press coverage as well as huge support from radio (it's already almost top 10 on pop!).

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Arturo

Look at the whole songwriting debate this way:

A personal skill of mine is to design pages. The pages I design are part of a larger publication that has many pre-determined elements to make the book consistent. Also, topics for the pages are already chosen for me and all the pictures used were taken by a professional photographer.

My job is to design this page using other peoples' work. It's my responsibility to allow the artistry of the photographers and elements designers to be represented through my design. I didn't create anything on the page, but merely connected to the images that other people took for me and used them to communicate thoughts, ideas, and emotions.

Even though nothing on the page was actually created by me, should the page design still be credited to me? The answer is yes. It was me who synthesized all of the information and created and unique layout. Maybe it wasn't with my work, but it wouldn't have turned out the same had I actually taken the pictures myself. I'm not a professional photographer, I'm a page designer. Therefore, I will let the photographer take pictures and they will let me design pages. Neither of us could switch roles, yet both of our jobs are needed to pull off a wonderful layout. At the end of the day, the layout is, in fact, mine. It just needed a team effort to create it.

Great comparison :clap:

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Rihanna can neither sing nor dance well enough. Her voice is unique, I agree, but that's all. Her artistry is lame, nearly inexisting.

I loathe her personality as much as Madonna's, can't picture myself stanning for someone like that.

Yet, I love some of her songs and videos :hehe:

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FF took long time and the songs are flat and boring. Rihanna albums aren't that bad as you guys make it see :rofl:

2 years is definitely a more appropriate time to make an album than 10 months. Unapologetic sounds like a rushed mess, whereas, Femme Fatale (as bland and boring as you think it is) was a cohesive album with a set theme, flowing track list, and high-quality productions. No one can deny that FF is a producer's paradise. A lot of the work on Unapologetic, aside from sounding rushed, was amateurish and repetitive, both lyrically and production-wise. One of her worst efforts to date and excluding the "mixtapes" (her first 2 albums) it's her worst one. And, I agree, her albums aren't as bad as we make them out to be but they are still bad.

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And from the looks of it, Unapologetic might have quite some trouble outselling FF in the US. :shutup: I think this might just be her first album to miss Platinum since 2007.

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And from the looks of it, Unapologetic might have quite some trouble outselling FF in the US. :shutup: I think this might just be her first album to miss Platinum since 2007.

Already sold 600k in the US. by september-october it will be Platinum, don't worry :party:

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Already sold 600k in the US. by september-october it will be Platinum, don't worry :party:

But that's 9 months away. :rip: I don't think she'll be able to hold out that long on the Billboard 200. She'd be starting a new album by then.

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But that's 9 months away. :rip: I don't think she'll be able to hold out that long on the Billboard 200. She'd be starting a new album by then.

She will do it, like she do it with TTT and Rated R, even if Diamonds is her only No. 1 single from Unapologetic

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This writing aurgument is stupid to me.

I have so much less respect for any artist that doesn't whelp rite and produce their songs. It's not their artistry, they just sang their version of an already recorded demo. What does that leave them with? Their image? I would be SHOCKED if Rihanna's music videos, performances and fashion weren't as regulated by her label and the music she releases.

A musician's true legacy is their music, not their image anyway. If your just singing a song that someone else wrote and produced it is not your song. You just become the name that sales it.

Not discrediting Rihanna's music, which I adore, but I have a hard time seeing her as an artist. Same with Britney, though my iTunes in filled with both of them.

If I'm on a team of three students that are turning In a project but do none of the work other than presenting the finished product and slapping my name on it, does it make it mine? No.

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No. She needs to release another song and maybe it will have more success or move on to another album

Unapologetic is close to sell 2M WW :excited2:

I would only hope it could outsell TTT by the time her 8th album comes out. It seems that Rihanna could only have lead singles to reach #1 these days, similar to Britney Spears.

Not doing nearly as well on iTunes as BTW did though. Does he have any promo lined up? It's already fallen out of the top 5 after its first week of release and he had a lot of press coverage as well as huge support from radio (it's already almost top 10 on pop!).

S&T's radio support is unbelievable. Clear Channel Media is heavily pushing it to the moon, as the top-of-the-hour spins from their radio stations showed, from rhythmic, R&B/Hip-hop to Adult Top40, at least in its debut week. But given to what happened to Maroon 5's One More Night, can it sustain its success, at least chart-wise, without the strong digital sales, as you've said, S&T is already falling in iTunes?

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Beauty and a Beat isn't even done yet and his label is already abandoning it for All Around the World? :confused:

(Well, not abandoning per se. The two songs are both impacting concurrently. But still.)

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Arturo

Beauty and a Beat isn't even done yet and his label is already abandoning it for All Around the World? :confused:

(Well, not abandoning per se. The two songs are both impacting concurrently. But still.)

I think they just cared that it went Top 10 and reached Platinum (on it's way to 2x Platinum)

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Well, I guess Ke$ha will now change her style on her next album after this C'mon and her album flopping. This only proves that the GP is not here anymore for the same type of music. I'm thankful that Gaga is always evolving in every of her albums.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIa-slw91co

this should be his next single or his third. So catchy. Another top 10 hit for Bruno I guess. He might break Gaga and Mariah top 10 streak,

"A little less conversation and a little more touch my body."
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I think they just cared that it went Top 10 and reached Platinum (on it's way to 2x Platinum)

True, but from a business perspective rushing an era is not as profitable as lengthening the eras to their full extent.

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