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I love how Gaga fans refuse to call Rihanna tracks flops, but then you'll pounce about Judas in 2 seconds being a flop. Give me a break

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chris777

BC did better that MTN in sales and didn't have music video or promotion even TTT went gold without music video and promotion

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Arturo

Now, I'm all here for calling Rockstar 101, California King Bed, and Man Down flops :usrs:

But Birthday Cake, a flop? The radio version wasn't even on iTunes, and it sold 1M. That's pretty good if you ask me.

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BC did better that MTN in sales and didn't have music video or promotion even TTT went gold without music video and promotion

Rihanna's Chris Brown crap with that remix was all the promo that track needed. It was ALL over the news and Twitter. And TTT was near the beginning of her era. Apples to oranges.

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Rihanna's Chris Brown crap with that remix was all the promo that track needed. It was ALL over the news and Twitter. And TTT was near the beginning of her era. Apples to oranges.

I didn't hear anything about it on the news or Twitter

Nobody talked about it based on my experiences at least

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BC was one of the most confusing situations other than the fact that it took four writers to create. An interlude that was clearly a longer song (judging from the fade-out) that became a fan-favorite, then it was released as a semi-single with a remix that wasn't made available for digital download and had no video. Weird. Then again, it's only purpose was controversy.

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I didn't hear anything about it on the news or Twitter

Nobody talked about it based on my experiences at least

Everybody was freaking out when the news hit. Billboard (and a few others) even wrote an open letter to Rihanna against the remix.

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chris777

Rihanna's Chris Brown crap with that remix was all the promo that track needed. It was ALL over the news and Twitter. And TTT was near the beginning of her era. Apples to oranges.

But in somehow was bad promotion the news were talking crap about that remix and alot of people didn't like the collab. TTT with music video could have done better. But she always have two-three flop singles per era

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Birthday Cake definitely did not flop considering it didn't even have a video and urban radio latched onto it for dear life when the Chris Brown remix was released. It would be in Def Jam's best interest to release a video for Pour It Up tailored for the urban audience because radio is already playing it and it's starting to rise on iTunes. Stay isn't a bad song, I just think she should have went with something different like "Jump" or "Nobody's Business".

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nick4bty

Stay will flop unless they give it a radio-friendly remix. As it is, radio will not pick it up in the same vein as her other singles.

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Babel

Stay isn't a strong ballad like Diamonds, imo the future of this single is uncertain.

At least they waited for Diamonds to bore people to launch the next single. They learned their lesson after WFL literally ate YDO success.

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I love how Gaga fans refuse to call Rihanna tracks flops, but then you'll pounce about Judas in 2 seconds being a flop. Give me a break

Amen. Rihanna has had 10x more flops than Gaga. Most people cant even remember most of Rihanna's singles.

Lets take a ride on flop lane.

Rihanna's flops:

(and I wont include songs from Music Of The Sun, since that was her debut album)

- Unfaithful (debateable, but its forgetable)

- We Ride

- Break it Off

- Shut Up And Drive

- Hate That I Love You

- If I Never See Your Face Again

- Rehab

- Russian Roulette

- Hard

- Wait Your Turn

- Rockstar 101

- Te Amo

- Man Down

- California King Bed

- Cheers (debateable, but forgetable)

- Fly

- You Da One

- Talk That Talk

- Birthday Cake

Gaga:

- Judas

- Marry The Night

BYE
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Arturo

Amen. Rihanna has had 10x more flops than Gaga. Most people cant even remember most of Rihanna's singles.

Lets take a ride on flop lane.

Rihanna's flops:

(and I wont include songs from Music Of The Sun, since that was her debut album)

- Unfaithful (debateable, but its forgetable)

- We Ride

- Break it Off

- Shut Up And Drive

- Hate That I Love You

- If I Never See Your Face Again

- Rehab

- Russian Roulette

- Hard

- Wait Your Turn

- Rockstar 101

- Te Amo

- Man Down

- California King Bed

- Cheers (debateable, but forgetable)

- Fly

- You Da One

- Talk That Talk

- Birthday Cake

Gaga:

- Judas

- Marry The Night

Wait Your Turn and Te Amo didn't have US releases

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Amen. Rihanna has had 10x more flops than Gaga. Most people cant even remember most of Rihanna's singles.

Lets take a ride on flop lane.

Rihanna's flops:

(and I wont include songs from Music Of The Sun, since that was her debut album)

- Unfaithful (debateable, but its forgetable)

- We Ride

- Break it Off

- Shut Up And Drive

- Hate That I Love You

- If I Never See Your Face Again

- Rehab

- Russian Roulette

- Hard

- Wait Your Turn

- Rockstar 101

- Te Amo

- Man Down

- California King Bed

- Cheers (debateable, but forgetable)

- Fly

- You Da One

- Talk That Talk

- Birthday Cake

Gaga:

- Judas

- Marry The Night

A handful of those singles which under-performed, sales-wise, also reached the top ten of the HOT 100 chart, probably thanks to radio's continuous support, with most of them being certified as Platinum. Her label's strategy to release singles left and right for them to cater a wider audience across all possible formats have eventually lead Rihanna to have a huge amount of misses in the process, and at the same time, hits as well.

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